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    Re: Florida Bill Would Prohibit Doctors From Asking Patients About Their Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Should they also make sure your oil change mileage is ok and check the tire pressure? Wouldn't want an auto 'accident'!
    Should they be legally prohibited from asking a question? Should we also ban them from legally asking how your day is going? It's none of their business? How about asking about a recent sports game? What if I don't like the same team!? *wrings hands*
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    Re: Florida Bill Would Prohibit Doctors From Asking Patients About Their Guns

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    It's a virtually unanimous opinion so far.
    I’m offended. Do I come off as a liberal to you?

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    You don't see how a mishandled or poorly stored gun in the house could be a healthcare issue.

    Really.
    Not until someone actually gets shot.
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    Re: Florida Bill Would Prohibit Doctors From Asking Patients About Their Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Should they be legally prohibited from asking a question? Should we also ban them from legally asking how your day is going? It's none of their business? How about asking about a recent sports game? What if I don't like the same team!? *wrings hands*

    It is not really about the question itself. Like I said earlier in the thread, I can always tell the doctor nothing about my collection of firearms, but with the digitizing of records, an Obama mandate in the HC bill, that GE, a close Obama supporter stands to benefit from, will have that information. Thus a backdoor way of collecting intel on citizens without having to go through legal channels. This administration is possibly the sneakiest, most lying group I have seen in my lifetime.


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    Re: Florida Bill Would Prohibit Doctors From Asking Patients About Their Guns

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    Just as you claimed I'm wrong. I don't have to explain common sense to you, otherwise we couldn't even have a basic conversation because then I'd have to prove that even sources are proven, and sources about sources are proven. Some things are understood. The AMA is against gun ownership, that's all that matters here.
    No, you do have to explain and substantiate it because it is not "common sense". In fact, MY position is common sense, and yet I still substantiated it.

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    Re: Florida Bill Would Prohibit Doctors From Asking Patients About Their Guns

    The AAP, ACP, and AMA are members of the Handgun Epidemic Lowering Plan (HELP) Network, based in Chicago. HELP is an exclusive advocacy group dedicated to banning guns. Physicians who disagree with HELP’s anti-gun agenda are barred from attending HELP’s conferences, a policy unthinkable in any scientific organization. HELP’s founder and leader Dr. Katherine Christoffel has compared guns to viruses that must be eradicated. (9) The group’s militant advocacy has no place for differing viewpoints on firearms, and apparently neither do the medical organizations which have signed on as HELP members.

    In fact, the AAP has adopted its "gun safety instruction" patient materials from the gun-ban lobby Handgun Control, Inc. (HCI). The AAP and Handgun Control, Inc.’s informational wing the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence advise families in their STOP pamphlet, "The safest thing is to not have a gun in your home, especially not a handgun." (10) And a survey of pediatricians showed 76% supported a ban on handguns. (11) Patients who seek objective advice on firearm safety should not look to pediatricians as a group. And any doctor should know that patient counseling based on these materials is politics, not medicine.

    Perhaps the most revealing aspect of organized medicine’s anti-gun bias is its persistent refusal to address the criminology literature on guns. For over twenty years, criminologists have studied firearms, their use and misuse, their risks and benefits. Especially in the last two years prominent researchers have found that firearm ownership is not the scourge that medical activists have claimed it to be. The best and latest research finds that private gun ownership by responsible citizens not only is safe, but protects the individual as well as his community from violent crime. (12)
    Thought You Should Know - Boundary Violation: Gun Politics in the Doctor’s Office

    And before anyone says this is some worthless blog post blah blah blah:

    Appeared originally in the Medical Sentinel of the
    Association of American Physicians and Surgeons,
    March/April 1999, pp. 60-61
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    Re: Florida Bill Would Prohibit Doctors From Asking Patients About Their Guns

    My Dr can feel free to ask me anything. I can feel free to not answer anything. What bothers me about the law is it seems to lay the ground work for more frivolous lawsuits. Someone posted earlier their Dr asked them about guns in a harmless conversation. With this law, she probably could have sued. Dr's use small talk and things all the time to ease tension or just to get to know their patients. No law is needed regulate that. If your not comfortable with your physician or vice versa go elsewhere.

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