That was a whole lot of words that were neither "yes," nor "no" like I asked, but the above quote I think is enough to begin to tackle your position. It seems you're a bit confused on the issue at hand though, since you jumped on the “blood in the streets” bandwagon early in the thread, but miraculously reversed direction when pressured for your personal opinion. If you don't have a problem with guns on campus, why were you bringing up the tired ole' anti-gun crowd argument about guns at frat parties (which has not been a visible problem so far?) Didn't you say you supported everyone's right to carry everywhere until it was proven to be a bad idea? It seems your initial judgement may have been a bit premature...
Oh...and the Brady quote was when you were defending the Brady Bunch to Turtle by saying:
How many people of the Brady Bill crowd have had loved ones shot in the head. One that I know of. Do you care to defend either of those quotes in light of your new stance on this issue, or should we all just pretend you never posted them?
Ah....a Brady Bunch doomsayer like your bud TD. The world is out to get ya, huh? Paranoia does that to folks who are trapped inside their own fiction that can see, hear, and feel that knock on the door of the government coming to take away your guns. Oh, and lets not forget the criminals who stalk you...waiting to get ya. Yep, its a cruel world, indeed.
As I clearly said before, this is America...you know how it all works, right? I get my say...despite your disagreements. I bring up whatever I want about anything. That includes that "TIRED OLE' anti-gun crowd argument.
You see...I think now...that you've really gotten down to the real issue here.
You are using your Brady Bunch doomsayers nonsense to use as a means to really slam my patriotism. Right? My comment to TD...is a valid question. People say the wildest thing until they are faced with the very issues that they so often criticized others for. And that's really nothing more than "If you don't believe as I do"...then you whatever the hell you believe has no value. In my opinion...yep, opinion, TD does this frequently. Now it wouldn't be so bad if he would offer something tangible to go along with his arguments, but he rarely does. Is that how you work it as well?
Is this what this is about? I'm not sown to your ideologies, your beliefs, your opinions...so obviously, mine are valueless.... So you try to dump your paranoia about gun ownership disguised as a tool to question other peoples beliefs about their rights and attempt to dissect and degrade all who doesn't meet your level of paranoia. Good Boy...you done good, man.
I was more than clear about my being a gun owner, I was more than clear about my beliefs of the rights of individuals to protect his or her person, family, property. I made it clear that I was for ANY lawful use of weapons. But that isn't what you needed....
not wanted...
but NEEDED. Because I said that mixing drugs, booze and guns... Whooooa...that hit a tender spot didn't it.
But since you brought it up...our prisons are full of people who got drugged up and drunk...killed somebody and then cried..."Oh, please, I didn't know what I was doing." Think that's an impossible situation with a bunch of frat kids? Of course you do. That's just impossible, right. NO MORE impossible than that crazy people who's gone campuses and randomly killed people.
Oh, wait...what you are lacking from me to clarify is that there just wont be as many death incidents among frats who get stoned and shoot somebody as often as a wacknut who just decides to kill a bunch of people. Yeah...well, you know how those darn collateral damage thing goes. So one has to outweigh the other for it to validate your point.
People kill each other every day. So...your all for doing what about it? I know...NOTHING. Because you can't. Now, your stance on guns...cool, stock up a million of them. But the second you break the law using one of them...you need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Now...once and for all. I believe that people should have to right to bear arms along with the responsibility of obeying the laws as it pertains to ownership.
And if I ever get into a situation where I need to use my gun...I'll will truly wished that it was you that had the pleasure of being in my place - because I don't ever want to be in that situation. Something tells me that you just can't wait.