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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    That with cars would be awesome as well...yet I don't see you saying we shouldn't have cars on campus.

    That with knives would be awesome as well...yet I don't see you saying we shouldn't have knives on campus. :

    That with equally partaking women would be awesome as well...yet I don't see you saying we shouldn't have coed campuses

    Hazlnuts post....

    hazlnut appealing to hyperbolic hysterical emotobabbling arguments?

    say its not so!!



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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Sure, sure... the right to heavy drinking and shooting.

    Nothing like a loaded deadly weapon in the hands of someone with no inhibitions...

    The football games are going to be a hoot. Especially the post-game parking lot...
    By loaded deadly weapon you mean a car with gas in the tank right? Because way more people are killed by drunk drivers than guns each year.

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    BY all means, link such data. I would love to examime it.
    I don't think you would. Look it up. Colorado Universities are one of them (except Boulder I think). Look up our gun crime statistics and compare it to the gun crime statistics of the Universities in the same city/area. Let me know what you find.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    it is meaningless in this dicussion. More people drive, so this means there will be more accidents. Also, there is a greater need. We accept risks with need. As once there was a real need for weapons. We lived with the risk. In the classroom, there is no such need.
    The ability to defend life, liberty, and property is well more meaningful and necessary than getting to the store quicker.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I would hope we'd go with 21, but 18 is worse. The point is, the less developed, the more likley to make reasoing errors, such to less than sound thinking. We see this is young people regularly.
    18 is adult and the time in which you get your nose out of other people's business. People are allowed to make their own decisions and make their own actions, for better or for worse. Sorry man, that's the way of it in a free country.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I look at Colorado once during our discussions. It's too limited, too removed. As I said, and I think you understand, it is too small a smaple. But what appeal to authority have I used? I have tried using reasoing.
    You keep saying "police think" blah. Police can think anything they want, but they don't get to set the rules. Of course they don't want people having guns, that's people who can defend themselves, who are less reliant on them, and perhaps someone that may offer them a threat (sometimes deservedly so). Colorado is one place, but it is REAL NUMBERS. You haven't offered real anything. Until you do, you're point is moot because you have not a single measurement to back it up. Show me the data. You want to restrict the rights of the individual, you got to prove the case. It ain't the other way around, not in this Republic.
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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Conservative arguments on this point seem to assume that everyone will bring a gun if it is permitted. Therefore, the increased risk that a psycho could use a gun in school is counter-balanced by the greater ability of others to take him down if he does. But how many people are actually going to bring guns to school once it is allowed? I have enough trouble just getting my computer and books to class, let alone a loaded weapon.

    In reality, I feel the only purpose this law serves is to make it more difficult to stop a psycho before he starts blowing people's heads off, because he won't be able to be questioned or stopped until he has already started.
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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    Conservative arguments on this point seem to assume that everyone will bring a gun if it is permitted. Therefore, the increased risk that a psycho could use a gun in school is counter-balanced by the greater ability of others to take him down if he does. But how many people are actually going to bring guns to school once it is allowed? I have enough trouble just getting my computer and books to class, let alone a loaded weapon.

    In reality, I feel the only thing that will happen is that it will be make it more difficult to stop a psycho before he starts blowing people's heads off, because he won't be able to be questioned or stopped until he has already started.
    The reality of the situation is actually allowing concealed carry on campus is a non-effect. You will not statistically see any increase or decrease in crime nor would you often find that one could stop the campus killer before he kills a lot of folk. People hell bent on killing a bunch of folk are most likely going to find the means by which to do so. At the same time, to keep and bear arms is a right and I'll allow anyone wishing to exercise the right just that. I think it's proper and dutiful to own weapons, to be proficient in them, to carry them on your person. Not everyone will...in fact on a college campus the vast majority won't. Which is why it's a non-issue. But it's still a good thing to do.
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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    I am Goshin, I am an ex-cop, and I approve of this law.

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    Conservative arguments on this point seem to assume that everyone will bring a gun if it is permitted. Therefore, the increased risk that a psycho could use a gun in school is counter-balanced by the greater ability of others to take him down if he does. But how many people are actually going to bring guns to school once it is allowed? I have enough trouble just getting my computer and books to class, let alone a loaded weapon.

    In reality, I feel the only purpose this law serves is to make it more difficult to stop a psycho before he starts blowing people's heads off, because he won't be able to be questioned or stopped until he has already started.
    that has absolutely no logical merit.

    most laws require the gun to be concealed. and if some guy is not a student and is carrying a gun openly I guarantee the amount of attention the guy will get will be astronomical



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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Bravo for one less "Defenseless Victim Zone" in this country.

    Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms - CBS News

    Edit: The nigh hysterical comments on the article are pure gold... "OMG, BLOOD in the streets!!"


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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that has absolutely no logical merit.

    most laws require the gun to be concealed. and if some guy is not a student and is carrying a gun openly I guarantee the amount of attention the guy will get will be astronomical
    You don't want quality time with the campus police; they are usually nuts.
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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You don't want quality time with the campus police; they are usually nuts.
    And all the people said: Amen.

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