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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm not convinced that is a flaw. These things happen quickly and under stress. This seems quite appropriate to me.

    And your interpretation is subjective and not one I agree with. I gave you an alternative reading. And no, the crux of the problem is making that decission fast. This is also in keeping with how it is usually studied.
    Actually, most shoot/don't shoot training is conducted in a shoothouse, you know, where the scenario is moving. How is trying to assess a dynamic situation from a static position NOT a flaw? In each of those photos, you'd have multitudes of additional sensory input in the real world that the photo just doesn't convey.

    My interpretation is not at all subjective, I provided a direct quote from the article that supported what I said. However, I'm not surprised that you don't agree and, frankly, I don't expect you to. It's your debate style to stand firm in your floundering opinion as the evidence against your position cascades around you.
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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Bravo for one less "Defenseless Victim Zone" in this country.

    Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms - CBS News

    Edit: The nigh hysterical comments on the article are pure gold... "OMG, BLOOD in the streets!!"
    I assume it's the way I grew up, but I cannot understand how people would feel safer with guns allowed on campus. I get that if some school shooter came in to a classroom, other students could take him down, but then again, because school shootings seem to happen so quickly it seems more likely that without police training, many student shooters would likely get shot.

    The idea of a bunch of people with guns next to me and behind me in class is not something that would have made me comfortable in college. Like I said though, I didn't grow up around guns and have rarely been around them.

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You do realize we must first have this ocme to past before we can get statisitics, right?
    Ar eoften mor ecareless.
    Statistic do show that people as as likely to shoot themselves as anyone else with a gun.
    (a meaningless statistics)
    Maddess for the novice shooter
    so i though a little preemption might avoid this coming up.
    you'll find links to law enforcement across the contry opposing such laws.
    It reflects your view, bis if you will.
    Like most who claim bias what you really want is for the media to biased
    Because we worry more about the nut than we do the saving the saving.
    You wnat your beliefs highlighten, given more hearing.
    The point is, the less developed, the more likley to make reasoing errors, such to less than sound thinking.
    We see this is young people regularly.
    I look at Colorado once during our discussions.
    I have tried using reasoing.
    Aren't this decisions made rather quickly?
    No one sugests mistakes can be removed completely.
    the crux of the problem is making that decission fast.
    dept chair, huh?

    and how IS detroit this time of year?

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Actually, most shoot/don't shoot training is conducted in a shoothouse, you know, where the scenario is moving. How is trying to assess a dynamic situation from a static position NOT a flaw? In each of those photos, you'd have multitudes of additional sensory input in the real world that the photo just doesn't convey.

    My interpretation is not at all subjective, I provided a direct quote from the article that supported what I said. However, I'm not surprised that you don't agree and, frankly, I don't expect you to. It's your debate style to stand firm in your floundering opinion as the evidence against your position cascades around you.
    I'm unsure what quote you posted that supports your reading. I looked back and don't see it.

    As for my style? Not sure, but your interpretation is subjective, as is mine. But the issue at hand is making a judgment, quickly. I'll do some more investigation, but you have not convinced me. I frankly don't see much effort on your part to even try. I suppose you think I should just accept what you write?

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I suppose you think I should just accept what you write?
    you could always go back to whitehouse.gov

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm unsure what quote you posted that supports your reading. I looked back and don't see it.

    As for my style? Not sure, but your interpretation is subjective, as is mine. But the issue at hand is making a judgment, quickly. I'll do some more investigation, but you have not convinced me. I frankly don't see much effort on your part to even try. I suppose you think I should just accept what you write?
    Hell, I'm still waiting for you prove that being a police officer makes you a better shooter, like you claimed several pages ago. Your "study" was a weak attempt, but I'll continue to wait patiently for you to prove your assertion.


    Oh, by the way, here's the quote from the article you posted that I mentioned before:
    "this research should make civilians more sympathetic to officers who mistakenly shoot unarmed subjects under high-stress, real-world conditions.
    Nothing to do with gun safety, everything to do with justifying bad shoots. Still want to defend the flawed study?
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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    If I were king for a day, I'd allow everyone to carry 100% of the time. An armed society being a polite society and all of that, but the world doesn't work like that.

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Hell, I'm still waiting for you prove that being a police officer makes you a better shooter, like you claimed several pages ago. Your "study" was a weak attempt, but I'll continue to wait patiently for you to prove your assertion
    the problem is that's not what I said. I said the training makes you better at making decisions and handling the chaos.


    Oh, by the way, here's the quote from the article you posted that I mentioned before:
    Nothing to do with gun safety, everything to do with justifying bad shoots. Still want to defend the flawed study?
    I'll have to find that quote as it makes no sense to me. I don't even see how you think it helps you.

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Bravo for one less "Defenseless Victim Zone" in this country.
    Sick, sick, wide-spread paranoia... No, babee, they're not all out to get you.

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'll have to find that quote
    do that

    by the way, when is the last time you pasted a link?

    not counting whitehouse.gov or the sydney morning herald, that is?

    read much?

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