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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    And there is no drinking, screwing or emotions running at full speed off campus? I had no idea all babies were conceived on college campuses.
    OMG babies, hmm wonder if I have a few more that I don't know about.

    And there is no drinking, screwing or emotions running at full speed off campus?
    There is absolutely but like I said use your common sense, we sure don't hand over Ferrari's to middle school students now do we, yet there are plenty of those out in the real world flirting with death.

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    There is absolutely but like I said use your common sense, we sure don't hand over Ferrari's to middle school students now do we, yet there are plenty of those out in the real world flirting with death.
    Common sense usually isn't. But rather built upon assumption and bias rather than actual data. Perhaps you can show in the 25+ Universities which allow guns on campus how those campuses are so much more dangerous than all the other Universities which ban guns.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Common sense usually isn't. But rather built upon assumption and bias rather than actual data. Perhaps you can show in the 25+ Universities which allow guns on campus how those campuses are so much more dangerous than all the other Universities which ban guns.
    Ikari I now what your trying to say and you a make a valid point, but IMO it's not a good idea statistic or no statistics I'll stick to my common sense and experience as a gun owner and as a father, oh and as a Texan. The problem with being a gun owner is that most do not have self defense training, the resolve to take a life and at the moment of truth may hesitate for numerous reasons.

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Ikari I now what your trying to say and you a make a valid point, but IMO it's not a good idea statistic or no statistics I'll stick to my common sense and experience as a gun owner and as a father, oh and as a Texan. The problem with being a gun owner is that most do not have self defense training, the resolve to take a life and at the moment of truth may hesitate for numerous reasons.
    These are adults who deserve to have the full of their rights recognized. Unless you have actual evidence, actual data to speak otherwise, you cannot properly authorize government force against their rights and liberties. Or do you forget:

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    I see far to many people so willing to give up their freedoms without a fight all in the name of security. To be free has it's inherited risks and with these risk our constitution allows us the tools to defend ourselves.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    So, you pack a pistol for the Izzy Government, but they don't require you to pack according to their established methods.

    Very intresting.

    Keep training, Ric.
    Its my loop....complicated or complex is not always better.

    Goshin *you being an ex cop* There is NO good reason to carry a CCW weapon without a round chambered. Absolutely none. How do you chamber a round if your support side hand or arm are disabled? There is a technique, but can you do it in time to save your life? Does your life mean so little to you that you are willing to add precious time onto the task of addressing a threat, instead of investing time in proper training in handling your weapon?

    Never understood why some guys carry without a chambered round. If you have the gun in the first place you are (at least we would assume and all hope) trained and know how to handle yourself and your firearm. I cant think of a dumber reason to die because you had to rack it when you took it out of your holster.

    What the **** is the point of having a gun without a round chambered, Goshin?

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    These are adults who deserve to have the full of their rights recognized. Unless you have actual evidence, actual data to speak otherwise, you cannot properly authorize government force against their rights and liberties. Or do you forget:
    No I don't forget but I do draw lines of distinction, I didn't say out law the guns but universities and colleges for the most part are private institutions and they should be able to decide not the state, if they allow guns fine. All I am doing is giving my own opinion on how I feel about this and i have a feeling in the LONG run I'll be on the right side...maybe not. We used to allow guns in bars and now it's outlawed in just about every state if not all.

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    No I don't forget but I do draw lines of distinction, I didn't say out law the guns but universities and colleges for the most part are private institutions and they should be able to decide not the state, if they allow guns fine. All I am doing is giving my own opinion on how I feel about this and i have a feeling in the LONG run I'll be on the right side...maybe not. We used to allow guns in bars and now it's outlawed in just about every state if not all.
    Universites and colleges for the most part are PUBLIC institutions. Private ones are more than free to choose whatever rules they want.

    We can open and conceal carry in bars, BTW. The rule is that if you are, you cannot be drinking. Ain't had no problems.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Schaff View Post
    I can see why some are happy about this, and I do see it as a solution to the issue. I merely find it unfortunate that we have to have this discussion at all. Allowing people to hold arms is seemingly beneficial, but at the same time that is creating a larger risk. One student pulls a gun out in the middle of class, and another pulls his out and takes the classmate down. Before long there's a firefight in the middle of a Biology class. Of course that's an exaggeration, but it's hard for me to see this as an entirely good decision.

    Hopefully statistics will prove me wrong in this regard, and we'll see less crime due to this bill.

    anti gun nuts said allowing honest people to carry pistols would

    1) cause massive deaths as people shot each other over traffic issues

    2) mall rats shooting someone who pulled into a parking space they were waiting for

    etc etc etc

    garment soiling haters of guns told us that if Bush let the idiotic Clinton Gun ban to expire the "streets would run with blood"

    another steaming load of bull excrement

    every time the hand wringing ninnies make a prediction it is wrong and yet those twits repeat the same crapola over and over and over and over



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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    anti gun nuts said allowing honest people to carry pistols would

    1) cause massive deaths as people shot each other over traffic issues

    2) mall rats shooting someone who pulled into a parking space they were waiting for

    etc etc etc

    garment soiling haters of guns told us that if Bush let the idiotic Clinton Gun ban to expire the "streets would run with blood"

    another steaming load of bull excrement

    every time the hand wringing ninnies make a prediction it is wrong and yet those twits repeat the same crapola over and over and over and over
    And this is what's really getting me. They're saying that statistically it's going to be so much worse, so much so dangerous. But it that's true then you should see it at every University which allows guns on campus and had enough a student population to realize all probabilities. Yet in every University/College which allows guns on campus, we have seen NO SUCH THING. So all this "common sense" and such is nothing more than what people IMAGINE the situation to be, not what it is in reality.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And this is what's really getting me. They're saying that statistically it's going to be so much worse, so much so dangerous. But it that's true then you should see it at every University which allows guns on campus and had enough a student population to realize all probabilities. Yet in every University/College which allows guns on campus, we have seen NO SUCH THING. So all this "common sense" and such is nothing more than what people IMAGINE the situation to be, not what it is in reality.
    they are just liars-and the main stream media refuses to thrash them for that

    Sarah Brady could pretend she merely believed her bovine excrement when she started that nonsense after 30 states proved her wrong she should have been branded the bald faced lying bitch she really is



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