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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    A lot of things. There's nothing to steal really. There are statisitic that show schools are safer than the rest of society (and they've been linkerd), and let's face it a lot of mall workers don't want a lot of guns in the mall.
    Schools will be even safer when the people are no longer denied a basic Constitutional freedom.

    Mall workers who object to law abiding citizens exercising their Constitutional freedom to keep and bear arms, they're under no compulsion to work there.

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Schaff View Post
    I can see why some are happy about this, and I do see it as a solution to the issue. I merely find it unfortunate that we have to have this discussion at all. Allowing people to hold arms is seemingly beneficial, but at the same time that is creating a larger risk. One student pulls a gun out in the middle of class, and another pulls his out and takes the classmate down. Before long there's a firefight in the middle of a Biology class. Of course that's an exaggeration, but it's hard for me to see this as an entirely good decision.

    Hopefully statistics will prove me wrong in this regard, and we'll see less crime due to this bill.
    Statistics already proved you wrong. It's called the United States before the stupid Miller decisionl. People weren't randomly shooing each other.

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    if we can teach a kid how to put a trojan on a banana we can teach a kid how to put a magazine in a glock or how to clear an M-16 rifle
    Exactly.

    More importanly, teaching gun safety isn't important for the student holding the gun, it's important for the student's he's learned not to point the gun at. Gun safety courses attempt to teach when not to shoot.

    Last time I checked, no sex education course tells the HIV infected person that he should keep his dick in his pants.

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm speaking of trainers and teachers. Had a group down helping us prepare an action plan. It is a very small minority view that more guns on campus is a good thing.
    The Constitution was written to protect the freedoms of the minority against the tyrann of the majority.

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Just for the record, reasoning is support.
    Logical arguments are all well and good and can help maybe guess probabilities a bit better, but proof it is not. You have some stats, like colleges are overall safer areas than general areas. But what do you attribute that to? That they have no guns? Because there is no link between those two stats, that would be nothing more than a guess on your part. And again, in the end we are talking about government force against the rights and liberties of adults in our society. Whether you like it or not, 18 is adult. Reasonable restrictions can be argued and backed up with data. If you don't have the data, then you don't have a complete argument. And without a complete argument, you cannot talk about reasonable restrictions; not when the rights and liberties of the individual are at stake.
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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    *shrug*

    My campus is open carry, but not a single person that I know of has ever open-carried, unless they were planning something messed up.
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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    *shrug*

    My campus is open carry, but not a single person that I know of has ever open-carried, unless they were planning something messed up.
    My town is open carry, people do from time to time. It's fine. My campus is concealed carry; but not a single person has faced negative consequences because of it. The end is that guns on campus are going to be a non-factor because as you say, not many people will actually carry them.
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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Exactly.

    More importanly, teaching gun safety isn't important for the student holding the gun, it's important for the student's he's learned not to point the gun at. Gun safety courses attempt to teach when not to shoot.

    Last time I checked, no sex education course tells the HIV infected person that he should keep his dick in his pants.
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    I guess it's been a long, long time since you've seen a sex education course then.

    Sex education courses teach facts regarding sex, sexuality and STDs. They also focus on methods of safe sex and the outcomes of unsafe sex.
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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    The dude with the biggest gun wins...


    In all seriousness I think this isn't a good idea, there is a lot of drinking, smoking, screwing and emotions running at full speed on college campuses. I am all for the right to have a gun any gun, but let use some common sense here.

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    The dude with the biggest gun wins...


    In all seriousness I think this isn't a good idea, there is a lot of drinking, smoking, screwing and emotions running at full speed on college campuses. I am all for the right to have a gun any gun, but let use some common sense here.
    And there is no drinking, screwing or emotions running at full speed off campus? I had no idea all babies were conceived on college campuses.

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