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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not that I disagree with those laws, but that they are the only reasonable and proper ones. Not allowing guns in the classroom is also reasonable. Very reasonable.

    As for the other, start a thread on it if you like. Might be worth discussing.


    Yes, it has become quite clear that "reasonable restrictions" mean "restrictions Boo Radley thinks are reasonable, never mind data to the contrary."

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    How's the quail hunting?


    Israeli carry (empty pipe) is to prevent accidents. You could say its an extra precaution measure instead of a more thorough and extensive training.

    I carry cocked and locked, and I have zero fear of a discharge

    I've carried a XD (besides Glocks) for years now using a cheap assed Uncle Mikes soft leather holster. More of a coozy really. Yes the slide wants to ride back, out of battery. A not-so-unimportant tidbit about the thumbwrap over the ass of the slide, if you have your thumb over the slide, touching the rear sight; it is nearly impossible to depress the grip safety with your thumb fat of the palm.

    The trigger getting pulled?? A lot of **** would have to be ****ed up, including the shooters actions, in order to have an ND. You are dealing with a long trigger pull, of a not-so-light weight. More so, I take more care in reholstering. My point is, if someone is that rash in reholstering, they are just as apt to miss the holster entirely, dropping it, or putting it in their back pocket.

    If someone is that intimidated by it, then PLEASE, don't carry it. Get a SA only revolver, and have a gunsmith weld a place across the left side of the trigger guard...

    Angry, Turtle and Goshin....keep training

    Remember...All guns are loaded and treat 'em accordingly. Don't believe your mama if she says its not

    Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and sure of your target and beyond

    So, you pack a pistol for the Izzy Government, but they don't require you to pack according to their established methods.

    Very intresting.

    Keep training, Ric.

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yeah, we all can find a story, but what we would be the numbers concerning accidental shooting versus accidental knifing. Do you really think they are equal?
    knives are banned in most classrooms, are you saying we should start allowing those?
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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Those words have never been as absolute as some try to make them. At times the courts have ruled that regulation is quite reasonable. They do have some contradictory rulings, true, but regulation has always been allowed ins ome form or another. I think they look at the first part, the well regulated part. However, as we both can pull up qualified opinion to support eithe rside, which is one reason I think the amendment is porrly written.

    What makes something reasonable has somethign to do with need versus response. There is no real reason to have a gun in the classroom. You save nor protect yourself from anything, but bring an unnecessary risk to the classroom.
    There are plenty of reasons to have responible concealed carry permitees in the classroom. These university shootings would claim FAR less casualties if someone OTHER than the shooter had a gun.
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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    There are plenty of reasons to have responible concealed carry permitees in the classroom. These university shootings would claim FAR less casualties if someone OTHER than the shooter had a gun.
    As noted earlier, there are professionals in the field who say that is not so. It is as likely they would have added to the death total. And this opinion by police professionals has been linked throughout this thread and others. If they are right, having some knowledge about this, then it would be worse and not better. Then when you consider how rare those events are, adding additional risk without cause is large what we're talking about with guns in the classroom.

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    knives are banned in most classrooms, are you saying we should start allowing those?
    Nope, they too shold be banned. I'm saying it's kind of silly to ban knives but not guns.

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    How's the quail hunting?


    Israeli carry (empty pipe) is to prevent accidents. You could say its an extra precaution measure instead of a more thorough and extensive training.

    I carry cocked and locked, and I have zero fear of a discharge

    I've carried a XD (besides Glocks) for years now using a cheap assed Uncle Mikes soft leather holster. More of a coozy really. Yes the slide wants to ride back, out of battery. A not-so-unimportant tidbit about the thumbwrap over the ass of the slide, if you have your thumb over the slide, touching the rear sight; it is nearly impossible to depress the grip safety with your thumb fat of the palm.

    The trigger getting pulled?? A lot of **** would have to be ****ed up, including the shooters actions, in order to have an ND. You are dealing with a long trigger pull, of a not-so-light weight. More so, I take more care in reholstering. My point is, if someone is that rash in reholstering, they are just as apt to miss the holster entirely, dropping it, or putting it in their back pocket.

    If someone is that intimidated by it, then PLEASE, don't carry it. Get a SA only revolver, and have a gunsmith weld a place across the left side of the trigger guard...

    Angry, Turtle and Goshin....keep training

    Remember...All guns are loaded and treat 'em accordingly. Don't believe your mama if she says its not

    Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and sure of your target and beyond
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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As noted earlier, there are professionals in the field who say that is not so. It is as likely they would have added to the death total. And this opinion by police professionals has been linked throughout this thread and others. If they are right, having some knowledge about this, then it would be worse and not better. Then when you consider how rare those events are, adding additional risk without cause is large what we're talking about with guns in the classroom.
    very few police who yap on this subject are professionals and most of their yapping comes from a sense of entitlement


    most cops who speak on gun issues are incompetent shots



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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Yes, it has become quite clear that "reasonable restrictions" mean "restrictions Boo Radley thinks are reasonable, never mind data to the contrary."
    Well, it is quite appropriate for me to note the ones I think reasonable and why. And I've seen no data to the contrary. If you read, there is no real data on guns in the classroom. But I have presented data on people shooting themselves and other accidental shooting. I've shown how likely it is for young people to use poor judgement, and how safe the classroom is compared to the rest of society. This is data. And I've explained my reasoning.

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    very few police who yap on this subject are professionals and most of their yapping comes from a sense of entitlement


    most cops who speak on gun issues are incompetent shots
    You're opinion is noted, but I and others actually don't agree. This seems more your way of saying I don't care for their views. Fine. But, who would know more?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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