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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You may have been lucky so far. We'll see as it becomes more wide spread.
    The same thing was said of concealed carry in general. There are now 40 Right-to-carry states in the country, with over 2/3 of the population of the country residing in those states, yet the ungrounded fears of the anti-gun crowd never came to fruition. At the very least, there is no evidence that the crime rates in any of those states increased with the sudden advent of armed citizenry.



    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Actually, I saying the school should decide. And government whould allow it. Schools appose it as much as anyone.
    The schools in Colorado that Ikari is referring to all make their own policies allowing guns on their campuses. Clearly they don’t “oppose it as much as anyone.”
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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by coolwalker View Post
    College kids can barely handle a beer let alone a gun.
    Depends on the kid.

    College professors on the other hand, being so liberal probably won't put bullets in it.
    My military history professor is an uber-lib. He's also an eagle scout and goes to the range all the time.
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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I would agree with that.
    I'll help you out a little...

    To all gun owners - Teachers and students have the right to a safe environment in which to learn, in this case I think it is up to the state to provide it.

    And arming teachers/students will not address the root problem of these crazy ****ers any more than searching little old ladies arses at airports addresses the issue of 9-11.

    Crazy people and terrorists need to be dealt with, and not by making the school an armed FOB. I think we should start profiling and put some people in the ground. And the news needs to quit making celebrities out of these crazy bastards

    The headline should be no more than "Un-named crazy ****er shot dead by Boo Boo. Now for the weather."

    Is that ok?

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    I understand your concern...

    Arming teachers/students is just putting a band-aid on all the moral failures of our country. Maybe we should concentrate on not needing the guns anymore. Do we really want to send the message to our kids that you have to have a gun to be safe, even at school?

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this what you think?
    We'd all love a peaceful, free Utopia without violence. We also all know that's not a possibility, so we prepare ourselves as best we can to deal with the world we live in.

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    I'll help you out a little...

    To all gun owners - Teachers and students have the right to a safe environment in which to learn, in this case I think it is up to the state to provide it.
    Is it so difficult to understand that you're denying the very thing you're seeking to create by banning legal guns from a campus. Teachers and students DO want a safe enviroment and they should not have to be disarmed just because there's a sign saying that guns aren't allowed. For the millionth time, a responsibly carried gun is not a danger to anyone, except those who would seek to harm the carrier. (see my sig)
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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post

    The schools in Colorado that Ikari is referring to all make their own policies allowing guns on their campuses. Clearly they don’t “oppose it as much as anyone.”
    Are you sure? Didn't the University of Colorado decide to ban guns on campus in 1994? Wasn't their decision one to ban guns? I haven't investigated the state completely, but my understanding is that others based their decisions on court rulings against the University. I suspect more court rulings will come in the future.

    As for concelled weapons in general, I think schools are different, and thus deserve a different ruling.

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    I'm taking a rifle to class next fall just to piss off the anti-gun folk. This is ridiculous.
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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I'm taking a rifle to class next fall just to piss off the anti-gun folk. This is ridiculous.
    If you do it on my campus, you'll be arrested.

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    We took a vote here and all agreed we knew professors who shuld never touch a gun. And their politics wasn't even discussed.
    Interesting; I assume that you just "knew" the professors, never having actually attended a class, for if you had, you probably would have failed considering your spelling.

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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If you do it on my campus, you'll be arrested.
    I doubt you'd come anywhere near my very conservative little city, if you could help it. =o)
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    Re: Texas Senate approves guns in college classrooms

    Quote Originally Posted by coolwalker View Post
    Interesting; I assume that you just "knew" the professors, never having actually attended a class, for if you had, you probably would have failed considering your spelling.
    More a poor typist. Often sloppy here. Which doesn't bother me at all.

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