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    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    You haven't told me why it isn't redistribution? The semantics game: $Gov. subsidy - $employer - $insurance - $you & $dr.

    Only personal insurance is voluntary, but so is Medicare. And the Obama plan required everybody to have some "type" of medical care. But regardless of these side issues, the redistribution occurs, so..................

    You might be interested in this tidbit subsidy I help pay for as well.

    The funding provided in George Bush’s Medicare D plan for Medicare Advantage plans is an example of corporate welfare which does not benefit patient care. Under the program, insurance companies are provided more money than it costs to care for patients under the government’s Medicare program, despite the insurance companies cherry picking healthier patients.
    Here is the URL for above: AMA Calls For End of Government Subsidies To Insurance Industry in Bush’s Medicare Plan Liberal Values
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    Re: Obama administration fights to save healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Who pays the medical bills of people who go to the hospital and can't afford to pay?
    Everybody paying taxes or volunteering free labor does, through redistribution, IMO.
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    Re: Obama administration fights to save healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Who pays the medical bills of people who go to the hospital and can't afford to pay?
    We do. In part through our insurance premiums.

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    Re: Obama administration fights to save healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Who pays the medical bills of people who go to the hospital and can't afford to pay?
    LOL!

    you have to ask?

    meanwhile, it turns out they fare BETTER (lower costs, hospital stays and mortality) than their neighbors whose primary payer status is medicaid, the ghetto of health care

    ASA: ASA 130th Annual Meeting Abstracts - Primary Payer Status Affects Mortality For Major Surgical Operations

    and that's before barack the slasher expanded medicaid's roles by millions with no funding

    Governors balk over what healthcare bill will cost states - The Boston Globe

    it is what it is---a pig

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    Re: Obama administration fights to save healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    you have to ask?
    Do you agree that right now, with our current system, those with health insurance are covering the medical costs of those who can't afford to pay or don't have insurance?
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obama administration fights to save healthcare law

    no more than the taxpayer is subsidizing the ghetto-like health care of those on medicaid

    which obamacare makes much worse

    ask dem gubs bredesen, gregoire, ritter, schweitzer and richardson

    Bredesen criticizes Obama's health care plan | Nashville City Paper
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    Re: Obama administration fights to save healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    no more than the taxpayer is subsidizing the ghetto-like health care of those on medicaid
    Thanks for the admission.

    We both agree that the current system is redistributive. Thanks for the honesty.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obama administration fights to save healthcare law

    vote obama, 2012!

    redistribute!

    just like private insurance!

    LOL!

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    Re: Obama administration fights to save healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    no more than the taxpayer is subsidizing the ghetto-like health care of those on medicaid

    Uhmmm that ghetto like medicaid actually saved my life.

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