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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I don't think any of these things SHOULD be a deciding factor, because they have no bearing on how well someone can run the country, I agree. But I think in reality, for many voters, they ARE, and for Newt there is a stigma attached to the decisions he made in his personal life that will affect the decisions of many voters. The same with Edwards.
    I can't help wondering how successful JFK would have been, had the public known how much infidelity was par for the course in that marriage.

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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I don't get it. He isn't even attractice...even as president the whole power thing wouldn't be enough for me to get past his cocked eyebrow and head-waggle.
    I'm with Zyph on this one. Clinton's a great speaker and exudes charisma. Hell, there are people who think that Bill Clinton is blacker than Barack!
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    I can't help wondering how successful JFK would have been, had the public known how much infidelity was par for the course in that marriage.
    Do you mean if the public had found out DURING the election and it would have thus affected his chances at getting elected?

    Or do you mean if the public had found out AFTER he got elected and that it somehow would have affected his performance as President?
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    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    My dad's a staunch conservative that couldn't stand Bill Clinton. However, a few years back he was doing private security at an event that ended up having Clinton speak. He got to be near him for about 30 minutes and shake his hand and get introduced. He said he'd never met someone who exuded more pure and unfiltered charisma than Clinton did, even out of the Presidency and that much older.

    Some people just ooze Charisma in person, and for whatever reason Slick Willy is one of the tops when it comes to that.
    I guess that makes sense. I've known people like that, at least. He'd have to have a god awful high amount of Charisma to become attractive to me, though. =o).
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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I guess that makes sense. I've known people like that, at least. He'd have to have a god awful high amount of Charisma to become attractive to me, though. =o).
    I ain't gay, but I don't think he's bad looking at all. And if you play Fallout 3, you know that if you have high enough Charisma you can pretty much damn do anything you want.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    My dad's a staunch conservative that couldn't stand Bill Clinton. However, a few years back he was doing private security at an event that ended up having Clinton speak. He got to be near him for about 30 minutes and shake his hand and get introduced. He said he'd never met someone who exuded more pure and unfiltered charisma than Clinton did, even out of the Presidency and that much older.

    Some people just ooze Charisma in person, and for whatever reason Slick Willy is one of the tops when it comes to that.
    No doubt. One of those guys you'd love to have a beer with because he'd make you think he really cared about what you were saying, and he'd tell really good jokes. Brilliant at playing to whatever audience he's in front of.

    You'd probably meet some hot girls, too!

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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    if Newt wins the nomination, I'm cancelling one idiot vote out by voting democrat for the first time in my life.

    this little piss ant had his chance with the contract with America and squandered it. what sucker would be fooled again?

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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Do you mean if the public had found out DURING the election and it would have thus affected his chances at getting elected?

    Or do you mean if the public had found out AFTER he got elected and that it somehow would have affected his abilities as President?
    Mostly the first. How would it affect his abilities as President? Like, the House and Senate would start blocking him every chance they got?

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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    What's the difference between Edwards and Bill? I don't see any.

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    of course you don't.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I ain't gay, but I don't think he's bad looking at all. And if you play Fallout 3, you know that if you have high enough Charisma you can pretty much damn do anything you want.
    lol, my "gamer side" doesn't go much futher than Xbox Kinect games, Wii Sports, and Mario. =oP.

    I guess I have a "type"...I want 'em tall, stocky, with warm eyes and a soft smile. I hate a cocky presentation. I'll become the worst version of myself when I'm around a cocky guy.
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