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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Okay, I'm doing some reading myself, but I'd appreciate it if those of you who have specific reasons for thinking he's unacceptable, would be willing to share them.

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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No one is going to want to touch Newt with the baggage that he has. This would be like John Edwards trying to run for President, but worse. It's never going to happen
    I'm aware of his infidelity issues and multiple marriages...but what baggage does he have that would reflect on his ability to run the country?
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    Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich; Obama is screwed, blued and tattooed.
    Give me Herman Cain for 8 years. Love that guy.

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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I'm aware of his infidelity issues and multiple marriages...but what baggage does he have that would reflect on his ability to run the country?
    I don't think it has any impact on his ability to actually run the country. However, image is definitely a factor in whether or not he can get enough votes. It'd be understand if, as DD says, people "don't want to touch him because he has baggage." People also generally don't like their leaders to be blatant hypocrites.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No one is going to want to touch Newt with the baggage that he has. This would be like John Edwards trying to run for President, but worse. It's never going to happen
    My memory may be faulty on Newt, but he didn't go screwing around on his Cancer ridden wife while using her cancer stricken self as some kind of campaign prop, so going to question the "worse".

    Second, the very fact that Newts big transgressions were almost a decade ago also makes the suggestion that it'd be "worse" a bit ridiciulous as time does allow for healing and/or dulling of situations not to mention time to suggest a "change".

    Yes, Newt's got a good bit of baggage. Baggage that I think would hinder him from truly running as a presidential candidate. But I think it would be mitigated a fair bit as a VP nod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I don't think it has any impact on his ability to actually run the country. However, image is definitely a factor in whether or not he can get enough votes. It'd be understand if, as DD says, people "don't want to touch him because he has baggage." People also generally don't like their leaders to be blatant hypocrites.
    I think when we get into bad personal decisions we're walking a thin line. I don't think it was smart of Obama to attend a church run by a pastor who spewed such venomous sermons every week, nor do I think it was smart for Obama to spend time during the beginnings of his political career with Bill Ayres. I also question some of his other associations.

    But...the voters decided none of that was enough to keep him from being elected, and so he was. I don't like infidelity, I will physically harm the next man who cheats on me, but I don't think his infidelity should be a deciding factor based on what I know of it....levels of severity in mind, I think Edwards' infidelity was probably worse because of Elizabeth's health and the fact that he took political funds to provide for the baby mama.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I think when we get into bad personal decisions we're walking a thin line. I don't think it was smart of Obama to attend a church run by a pastor who spewed such venomous sermons every week, nor do I think it was smart for Obama to spend time during the beginnings of his political career with Bill Ayres. I also question some of his other associations.

    But...the voters decided none of that was enough to keep him from being elected, and so he was. I don't like infidelity, I will physically harm the next man who cheats on me, but I don't think his infidelity should be a deciding factor based on what I know of it....levels of severity in mind, I think Edwards' infidelity was probably worse because of Elizabeth's health and the fact that he took political funds to provide for the baby mama.
    I don't think any of these things SHOULD be a deciding factor, because they have no bearing on how well someone can run the country, I agree. But I think in reality, for many voters, they ARE, and for Newt there is a stigma attached to the decisions he made in his personal life that will affect the decisions of many voters. The same with Edwards.
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    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I think when we get into bad personal decisions we're walking a thin line. I don't think it was smart of Obama to attend a church run by a pastor who spewed such venomous sermons every week, nor do I think it was smart for Obama to spend time during the beginnings of his political career with Bill Ayres. I also question some of his other associations.

    But...the voters decided none of that was enough to keep him from being elected, and so he was. I don't like infidelity, I will physically harm the next man who cheats on me, but I don't think his infidelity should be a deciding factor based on what I know of it....levels of severity in mind, I think Edwards' infidelity was probably worse because of Elizabeth's health and the fact that he took political funds to provide for the baby mama.
    not just his infidelity, but his utter lack of regard for his wife. THAT'S the kicker for me.

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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    not just his infidelity, but his utter lack of regard for his wife. THAT'S the kicker for me.
    With both of them, or just Newt?
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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    not just his infidelity, but his utter lack of regard for his wife. THAT'S the kicker for me.

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