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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    vote obama, 2012!

    there's no more liberal candidate!

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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Who are the more liberal candidates running against Obama?
    By 'liberal' do you mean 'fiscally irresponsible'?

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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    I couldn't give a rat's ass about which party the next President belongs to. I'm only hoping that whomever it is can at least start to get us out of many of the messes we are in right now. Granted, that is an unrealistic expectation considering that we are talking about politicians here, who obviously have their own partisan interests in mind rather than the interests of the greater good of the American people. So, realistically? I think we are screwed either way.

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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    I feel that Newt is out of his element now. The GOP has shifted too far right for him and being a centrist gets one nowhere now days. I do feel with Mitch Daniels perhaps now not running, Newt would be the best for the GOP, yet I applaud their support of candidates who will make Obama's re-election as easy as Clinton's run against Dole.

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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    By 'liberal' do you mean 'fiscally irresponsible'?
    Of course not, I mean progressive thinking.
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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No one expected the Bush recession to be as bad as it was.........hell, McCain wasn't even aware we were in a recession during his campaign. Yet, even with the serverity of the Bush recession, Obama has reversed the Bush unemployment trend:


    http://reflectionsofarationalrepubli...april-data.jpg
    I see you're spreading the cherry picking around in the forum. Lets point out the other info in the source you use to get this graph.


    The bad news is that the seasonally-adjusted unemployment rate actually ticked up in April from a whopping 8.8% to an even worse 9.0%. This number is 1.7 percentage points worse than President Bush’s last full month in office in December 2008.


    Both the Bush and Obama presidencies have been marked by a steady decline in the labor force participation rate. The labor force participation rate measures the number of people in the labor force as a percentage of the total working-age population.


    For every job that the private sector created under George W. Bush, the private sector eliminated ~21 jobs under Barack Obama
    But...don't mind me. Continue to cherry pick individual graphics and cross your fingers that people don't want to see the information surrounding it. I'm sure it'll help for future arguments.

    The Economy wasn't great, but wasn't horrible under Bush. It was actually running rather well for the large portion of his Presidency. It was definitely going through a bad section at the end however, that can't be disputed. In some ways it has improved under Obama, in other ways it has continued to worsen such as the total amount of people out of work and the actual unemployment rate. Its ridiculous and illogical to attribute every positive sign in the economy to action done by Obama yet every negative sign in the economy to something done by Bush.

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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Who are the more liberal candidates running against Obama?
    There aren't any, of course. Right now, there are only four candidates to choose from: Obama, Gingrich, Paul, and me.

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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Of course not, I mean progressive thinking.
    Today's 'progressive thinker" has their ideology largely based in Marxism, which is hardly 'progressive' at all.

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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    But...don't mind me. Continue to cherry pick individual graphics and cross your fingers that people don't want to see the information surrounding it. I'm sure it'll help for future arguments.

    The Economy wasn't great, but wasn't horrible under Bush. It was actually running rather well for the large portion of his Presidency. It was definitely going through a bad section at the end however, that can't be disputed. In some ways it has improved under Obama, in other ways it has continued to worsen such as the total amount of people out of work and the actual unemployment rate. Its ridiculous and illogical to attribute every positive sign in the economy to action done by Obama yet every negative sign in the economy to something done by Bush.

    I was not attempting to cherry pick, I was showing the trend that shows we are recovering from the recession, which we are. I had no expectations for Obama to fix everything in his first term. I am just grateful we avoided another Great Depression!

    "The 2010 Joint Economic Report makes clear that the economy has a long road to tread before it fully heals, and that continuing to enact targeted, cost-effective policies will push the economy along and reduce the likelihood that it falls into an abyss. Key findings from the first half of 2010 include a rebound by manufacturers which had reduced their payrolls substantially during the Great Recession but in 2010 registered the largest six-month gain in employment since 1998."
    Press Releases - Press - U.S. Congress Joint Economic Committee
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    Re: Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Today's 'progressive thinker" has their ideology largely based in Marxism, which is hardly 'progressive' at all.
    That would be Marxism, as defined by the far right, as the progressive tax system and social safety nets instituted and supported for the last 3/4 of a century by our Marxist forefathers.

    LOL! Our forefathers were Marxist, Got it!
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