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Schools may ban chocolate milk over added sugar

Jetboogieman said:
Yeah, so I've heard for the last 10 years...

You're going go have to forgive me for not taking you seriously...

You know with the whole "obamas birth certificate is fake" and "9/11 was an inside job"
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'Put CCTV in addicts' homes to protect children' - Herald Scotland

That's just a relatively recent example... every few months or so there's a small article that might make it somewhere discreet in the newspaper where few will actually read.

Cnspiracy theories seem to be your strong suit.

Cause you know, we're only one school board decision away from CCTV in our homes :coffeepap
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It's called a TREND. If the TREND continues, it COULD wind up in the absurd as I pointed out. Why stop with telling parents what they can or cannot put in their lunches... hell, why allow parents to pack a lunch at all?? Parents cant' be trusted to make good decisions for the kids when the state is MUCH more capable.

Of course everything you don't want to believe is happening is called a "conspiracy"... sometimes I wonder if people actually understand the meaning of "conspiracy theory" anyway. If THAT trend continues, "conspiracy" will become the most commonly misused word, even over "irony".

Harry Guerrilla said:
Seriously, it's chocolate milk, not like the rest of the sugar substitutes have been banned.
Don't like it, send your kids to a private school or homeschool them.
The public babysitt...school doesn't exist to serve your kids palate.
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- Banning Brown Bagging: Chicago School Cracks Down on Homemade Lunches - TIME NewsFeed
- Elementary school bans tag - US news - Education - msnbc.com
- New Mexico school bans club meetings after gay club formed - Yahoo! News

How far does it have to get before you realize there's a problem???

- Should they have to go through security like at an airport? (oops, too late in many areas)
- Should they have to get their thumb print recorded for lunch? (Concern over thumbprint reader at Cressex Community School in High Wycombe (From Bucks Free Press))

So, send the kids to a public school where they are effectively treated like prisoners... OR a person could pay the exorbitant fees involved with private schooling... OR can have one parent give up their career for homeschooling (which is also becoming more and more difficult through regulation...)
 
Krhazy said:
I sense a little bit of a contradiction in some of the views expressed in this thread with those expressed in others.

Why isn't a school's offering of unhealthy alternatives seen by conservative/libertarians as a waste of the taxpayer money? Shouldn't there just be one or maybe two healthy choices, and the parents can provide additional alternatives if they choose to?

Should schools limit their offerings to one or two unhealthy alternatives? Why should schools give students entitlements to unhealthy foods?
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1. Government shouldn't be in the restaurant business.

2. I dislike busy-bodies who tell people what they can consume and can't. They ban candy at school, they ban bake sales, they make war on soda. These people piss me off. Why?

You get absolute idiocy like this:
Michael Sheridan was stripped of his title as class vice president, barred from attending an honors student dinner and suspended for a day after buying a bag of Skittles from a classmate.

The New Haven school system banned candy sales... as part of a district-wide school wellness policy, said school spokeswoman Catherine Sullivan-DeCarlo.

TWW - Middle school kid suspended for buying candy
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Ockham said:
I know right? Parenting and personal responsibility... so alien of a concept.
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Way to not get my point :lol:

Kids shouldn't be forced to go hungry in school period. Most kids pay for their lunches, and if we can't provide food for kids who have no control over their situation, then that's not a country I want to live in.
 
MrVicchio said:
Schools may ban chocolate milk over added sugar - Yahoo! News


Let's see, recesses are being shortened, high activity games are either banned or heavily structured for fear of "lawsuits" cause kids might "get hurt".

It's not what you eat, it's what you do. The more parents abdicate their responsibilities of raising their kids to the Gov't, the more problems we keep having.

Amazingly the answer seems to be "more control"! It's like the world has entered a dark time of stupid.
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For the first time, I'm with Mr Vic on an issue. Instead of all these things, I'd rather them teach kids more about nutrition and healthy diets and how to take care of their own bodies.
 
StillBallin75 said:
For the first time, I'm with Mr Vic on an issue. Instead of all these things, I'd rather them teach kids more about nutrition and healthy diets and how to take care of their own bodies.
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You only provide healthy meals at school, take the choice away from them at school, while giving them the skills, and education so that they can make the healthy choices outside of school. This is what I think would be best.
 
Your Star said:
Way to not get my point :lol:

Kids shouldn't be forced to go hungry in school period. Most kids pay for their lunches, and if we can't provide food for kids who have no control over their situation, then that's not a country I want to live in.
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We can, but the government should not be doing it.

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Your Star said:
In government schools they damn well better be providing it.
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Why? Why not let private institutions do this, do it more effectively as they always do, and do it at a far lower cost, thus eliminating 16 billion (and growing) in annual costs to the taxpayer, and in one motion gut a bunch of corruption and waste?

Why always look to government? That huge ineffective wasteful behemoth?

What do these kids eat on weekends, holidays and summer and winter vacation?

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zimmer said:
Why? Why not let private institutions do this, do it more effectively as they always do, and do it at a far lower cost, thus eliminating 16 billion (and growing) in annual costs to the taxpayer, and in one motion gut a bunch of corruption and waste?

Why always look to government? That huge ineffective wasteful behemoth?

What do these kids eat on weekends, holidays and summer and winter vacation?

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Because they need to provide healthy foods at school, not whatever a company wants to sell to the kids.
 
Your Star said:
Because they need to provide healthy foods at school, not whatever a company wants to sell to the kids.
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Who said private companies. I was thinking about charitable actions, but prefer private companies before government every day of the week.

And your bit about "healthy foods" cracks me up.

June 21, 2010
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unhealthy school lunches

Processed foods that are high in fat, sugar, and salt have become a mainstay of lunches in schools across America and the results are in — experts say these unhealthy school lunches are a contributing factor to the childhood obesity epidemic...

But there are many obstacles to improving unhealthy school lunches, not the least of which is money...

Another obstacle to addressing the problem is that some schools have given contracts to food management companies...

“The quality goes down; they have purchasing powers,” he says. “There’s no reason in the world that money [$2.68] should offer a profit. But they know how to manage the subsidies.”

Schreiber adds that the blame doesn’t lie with those companies since they lack incentives to make any changes to unhealthy school lunches. Change should come from the government with a federal nutrition program, he says.

http://insite.artinstitutes.edu/unhealthy-school-lunches-not-making-the-grade-23810.aspx
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So what have we here?
We have:

1. These lunches are "unhealthy", not healthy... ROTFLOL

2. Like the disastrous Government Food Pyramid, they are adding to obesity yet again.

3. Costs that are going to increase because the money isn't enough. 16 Billion a year today... tomorrow...???

4. Private companies are running some of these operations.

5. Their suggested solutions are higher costs and more government... (projectile vomit icon)


Solution: Get government out of the restaurant business.

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zimmer said:
Who said private companies. I was thinking about charitable actions, but prefer private companies before government every day of the week.

And your bit about "healthy foods" cracks me up.

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I know school lunches are unhealthy at the moment. My mom has been a lunch lady for over a decade, and know all about this stuff,(for Georgia at least) I never claimed they were healthy, I am advocating for them to serve only healthy food, and teach students to make healthy choices outside of school. And I think the government could do that the best. Also we should provide breakfast, and lunch to all students who can't afford to pay the amount it cost to buy them.
 
Your Star said:
I know school lunches are unhealthy at the moment.
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They've only had 7+ decades to perfect it. Typical government. Can't even get something simple right. Then they want your pensions and healthcare too!!! (face palm).

My mom has been a lunch lady for over a decade, and know all about this stuff,(for Georgia at least) I never claimed they were healthy, I am advocating for them to serve only healthy food
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The restaurant business isn't government's job. Time to cut a failed program and save the taxpayers 16+ billion annually.

and teach students to make healthy choices outside of school.
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Fine. That can be taught every morning at homeroom for 5-minutes once a week. It's not rocket science. Day 1: Twinkies & Fried foods... not so often kiddies... meat, eggs, vegetables... ok.

And I think the government could do that the best.
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WRONG. Government does nothing "best".

Correction: The military/defense is the only thing and that is because people die if they don't do it best. It's a survival mechanism thing. School lunches (Luke Flatulence Icon)

Also we should provide breakfast, and lunch to all students who can't afford to pay the amount it cost to buy them.
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We should double down on the obesity program? Why not dinner too? And late night snacks? Hell... why not set up dorms so they can stay there 24/7 so we are sure they're participating fully in the obesity program?

No. We should provide history, geography, math, sciences, art, PE, English, Languages, classes on Capitalism, business, and... cut the government out of the restaurant business. They've failed, and in the free market when you fail... it's time to shut 'er down. 7+ decades is 6+ too many.

Private institutions can do better.

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MrVicchio said:
Schools may ban chocolate milk over added sugar - Yahoo! News


Let's see, recesses are being shortened, high activity games are either banned or heavily structured for fear of "lawsuits" cause kids might "get hurt".

It's not what you eat, it's what you do. The more parents abdicate their responsibilities of raising their kids to the Gov't, the more problems we keep having.

Amazingly the answer seems to be "more control"! It's like the world has entered a dark time of stupid.
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I don't really have a problem with this. At my (private) elementary school, they had regular milk Monday through Thursday and chocolate milk only on Fridays. I think it was a good way to do it for health and discipline reasons. What's funny about the outrage of all this is that many people want education vouchers so that kids can go to private schools and the minute public schools start to act like private schools, people are outraged about too much "control". That's exactly what effective private schools do - there's a fair amount of control and discipline.
 
theplaydrive said:
I don't really have a problem with this. At my (private) elementary school, they had regular milk Monday through Thursday and chocolate milk only on Fridays. I think it was a good way to do it for health and discipline reasons. What's funny about the outrage of all this is that many people want education vouchers so that kids can go to private schools and the minute public schools start to act like private schools, people are outraged about too much "control". That's exactly what effective private schools do - there's a fair amount of control and discipline.
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The biggest thing we need in our schools right now is greater teach autonomy, especially when it comes to discipline.
 
megaprogman said:
The biggest thing we need in our schools right now is greater teach autonomy, especially when it comes to discipline.
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I agree with this. I would add that public schools really need to emphasize discipline, both in the "detention" sense and in the "learn restraint" sense. The problem is that anytime a public school shows signs of teaching discipline, a lot of parents freak out and scream "government control".
 
One reason child obesity has skyrocked in the past couple of decades? Computer games and the internet.
 
Going too far. Let the kids have their Chocolate milk:(
 
[Looks around trying to figure out his location and scratches head.] Sorry; I thought this was the United States of America, not Cuba.
 
Blackdog said:
[Looks around trying to figure out his location and scratches head.] Sorry; I thought this was the United States of America, not Cuba.
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If this was Cuba, they'd just take all the chocolate milk and redistribute it to all the peasants.
 
StillBallin75 said:
If this was Cuba, they'd just take all the chocolate milk and redistribute it to all the peasants.
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If that were the case we would not have so many fleeing to the US every year. The funny part is they are not so much fleeing because of political reasons anymore, mostly economical. So no.
 
Blackdog said:
If that were the case we would not have so many fleeing to the US every year. The funny part is they are not so much fleeing because of political reasons anymore, mostly economical. So no.
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Well I guess since we're Cuba, they might as well just stay put lol.
 
Temporal said:
Chocolate milk is fake and I never drink it.
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So do you drink white milk? If so? I hope you drink it right from the cow:lamo
 
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