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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    What was their reason? Other than the gut feeling an imam gives them?
    I got an idea. Instead of proposing "what could it be except pure bigotry?", why don't you provide evidence that bigotry was the motive.

    You're the one who thinks he knows what happened, for sure. Support YOUR claim. With actual evidence.

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

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    Why? Muslims are responsible for endless terror attacks and planned attacks. You don't believe in profiling? I do, and if there is a flight with 100 Grannies and a flight with some Muslims, guess which flight I'd put the Air Marshall on? And you?

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

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    Though a kanuckistani resident, perhaps citizen... you do support socialized medicine do you not? Turning Doctors into wards of the state?

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    That's only one way of looking at it.

    You of course can't answer the question. And your statement was completely and utterly rediculous.

    But please continue.

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post

    Why? Muslims are responsible for endless terror attacks and planned attacks. You don't believe in profiling? I do, and if there is a flight with 100 Grannies and a flight with some Muslims, guess which flight I'd put the Air Marshall on? And you?
    After 7/7 I was on a bus when a Muslim came on with a back pack and fiddled with it looking nervous. I got nervous and even considered telling the bus driver. He was probably nervous thinking everyone will be thinking I am a terrorist. Muslims get nervous about people being terrorists too. We all get neurotic after something like that but that is no reason or excuse to take it out on all Muslims.

    As infinite said some time ago, airport security is where you should be checking. If you have doubts that your security is efficient make sure it is. Otherwise you will see the bogeyman everywhere and harm the innocent.
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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    That's only one way of looking at it.

    You of course can't answer the question. And your statement was completely and utterly rediculous.

    But please continue.
    I answered you claim. What is ridiculous about these pilots bringing the plane back to the gate? What evidence do you have that it was bigotry? You have none, one way or the other... nor do I, but I suspect the pilots did this with some basis. The scrutiny (outside of the press) they would have to go through afterwards isn't Mickey Mouse. They will be grilled.

    As noted, the easy thing would have been to take off and hope all went well. This BS on the part of folks like you could end up costing people their lives in the future BTW... for a weaker individual just might take off and hope for the best, and that hope might not be fulfilled next time.

    You seem to fail to realize we are at war with terrorists, we just put a bullet through the head of the terror idiots leader, and they have sought revenge. How do you know some Arabic speaking individual didn't overhear these two speaking of revenge or who knows what? You don't and I don't. There are millions of possible scenarios. Millions... one is the pilots are both bigots, and their crew too.

    The seriousness of their actions makes me believe they are not, and I subscribe to the "better safe than sorry" school of aviation.

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    After 7/7 I was on a bus when a Muslim came on with a back pack and fiddled with it looking nervous. I got nervous and even considered telling the bus driver. He was probably nervous thinking everyone will be thinking I am a terrorist. Muslims get nervous about people being terrorists too. We all get neurotic after something like that but that is no reason or excuse to take it out on all Muslims.

    As infinite said some time ago, airport security is where you should be checking. If you have doubts that your security is efficient make sure it is. Otherwise you will see the bogeyman everywhere and harm the innocent.
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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I answered you claim. What is ridiculous about these pilots bringing the plane back to the gate? What evidence do you have that it was bigotry? You have none, one way or the other... nor do I, but I suspect the pilots did this with some basis. The scrutiny (outside of the press) they would have to go through afterwards isn't Mickey Mouse. They will be grilled.

    As noted, the easy thing would have been to take off and hope all went well. This BS on the part of folks like you could end up costing people their lives in the future BTW... for a weaker individual just might take off and hope for the best, and that hope might not be fulfilled next time.

    You seem to fail to realize we are at war with terrorists, we just put a bullet through the head of the terror idiots leader, and they have sought revenge. How do you know some Arabic speaking individual didn't overhear these two speaking of revenge or who knows what? You don't and I don't. There are millions of possible scenarios. Millions... one is the pilots are both bigots, and their crew too.

    The seriousness of their actions makes me believe they are not, and I subscribe to the "better safe than sorry" school of aviation.

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    So I've never personally violated another persons civil rights.

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    If you have doubts that your security is efficient make sure it is. Otherwise you will see the bogeyman everywhere and harm the innocent.
    You mean kinda like you see Islamophobes everywhere? Even where there is no direct evidence and the investigation is still underway?


    You mean like jumping to conclusions about people being bigots?


    I think I see what you mean. Tell us, what is the problem with your security that is causing you to behave like this.
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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
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