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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    So you are saying you are a bigoted nation that no longer allows Muslims on areoplanes and you seem to find that no big thing because you also engage in even more bigotry. Not all of you yet, so there may still be hope but you are presenting a pretty sick picture of your country.
    Sure, why not. Let's go with that reading.

    Do you disagree?
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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Were making progress, feelings divulged, in honesty and sympathy....

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Right, and considering that A) They stuck the imams on the next flight, and B) That nothing happened on that next flight, it seems to me that the pilot's fears were entirely unfounded.
    Perhaps, but as I noted they don't take such serious action and go through the post flight scrutiny for fun. Obviously there was something that made the pilots turn around. I don't know what it is and neither do you. I'd rather have pilots take such action than ignore signals that could lead to disaster.

    And just for argument sake, let's suppose they were to take some type of nefarious action, do you really think that after being booted from the first flight they would take action on a second with the attention surrounding them? I wonder if an Air Marshall was put on the second flight, and if one was... does it illustrate prudence or bigotry in your and the other naysayers eyes?

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    People will do anything to justify their bigotry and their distrust of others that they do not understand.

    The constitution and the bill of rights did not come with a sticky note on the front saying "Please disregard these rights for muslims".

    This is more then "you don't have the right to fly". This is about freedom of movement, freedom of the mind, and most importantly, freedom of religion, to not be persecuted for ones religion. Which is what happened in this case.

    People "didnt like the look of them" is not a good enough reason to not allow them on the plane after they'd already been screened again.

    Shame on the airline.

    Shame on the pilot.

    And shame on any of you that would justify this behaviour, you make me sick.

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Perhaps, but as I noted they don't take such serious action and go through the post flight scrutiny for fun. Obviously there was something that made the pilots turn around. I don't know what it is and neither do you. I'd rather have pilots take such action than ignore signals that could lead to disaster.
    That's presuming there were signals, rather than just a dislike of Muslims, but both are presumptions until we know better, though what we know now favours my presumption.
    And just for argument sake, let's suppose they were to take some type of nefarious action, do you really think that after being booted from the first flight they would take action on a second with the attention surrounding them? I wonder if an Air Marshall was put on the second flight, and if one was... does it illustrate prudence or bigotry in your and the other naysayers eyes?
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    Well if there nefarious scheme, it obviously wasn't discovered, or they wouldn't have been put on the second flight, so what reason would they have to not go through with it. If the Marshall was put on becuase they were suspect, it would be prudence, if he was put on just because they were Muslims, then bigotry.
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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Shame on people who assume there is no way that the pilots, stewards or anyone involved had any possible reason to be concerned.

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    People will do anything to justify their bigotry and their distrust of others that they do not understand.

    The constitution and the bill of rights did not come with a sticky note on the front saying "Please disregard these rights for muslims".

    This is more then "you don't have the right to fly". This is about freedom of movement, freedom of the mind, and most importantly, freedom of religion, to not be persecuted for ones religion. Which is what happened in this case.

    People "didnt like the look of them" is not a good enough reason to not allow them on the plane after they'd already been screened again.

    Shame on the airline.

    Shame on the pilot.

    And shame on any of you that would justify this behaviour, you make me sick.
    Do you know why the pilot pulled the plane off the taxi-way and went back to the gate? Do you? I don't.

    You don't either, so your grandstanding is meaningless, especially in light of who has been attacking us and how and where.

    I find it hilarious you bring up The Constitution/Bill of Rights when folks like you ignore them repeatedly.

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Shame on people who assume there is no way that the pilots, stewards or anyone involved had any possible reason to be concerned.
    What was their reason? Other than the gut feeling an imam gives them?

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I find it hilarious you bring up The Constitution/Bill of Rights when folks like you ignore them repeatedly.
    Please cite any time I have personally violated the civil liberties of a citizen of the United States.

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

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    That's presuming there were signals, rather than just a dislike of Muslims, but both are presumptions until we know better, though what we know now favours my presumption.
    You do not know, nor do I.

    Well if there nefarious scheme, it obviously wasn't discovered, or they wouldn't have been put on the second flight, so what reason would they have to not go through with it. If the Marshall was put on becuase they were suspect, it would be prudence, if he was put on just because they were Muslims, then bigotry.
    Why? Muslims are responsible for endless terror attacks and planned attacks. You don't believe in profiling? I do, and if there is a flight with 100 Grannies and a flight with some Muslims, guess which flight I'd put the Air Marshall on? And you?

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