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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Well all reports are of the pilot, after kicking the imams off the plane, wouldn't let them board again after extra security checks, so with no real reason to kick them off the plane, bigotry seems the most obvious answer on behalf of the pilot.
    Perhaps the US need to pick up on it's security checks. People ought to feel safe when they get on a plane. If it was bigotry and bigotry in the US has reached this level they have a real problem.
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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    So.... your point is you're scared of them?
    Seriously I don't mean to insult anyone.

    FYI this is what we call an analogy: A comparison between two things, typically on the basis of their structure and for the purpose of explanation or clarification.

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    If you have a concern as a pilot or flight attendant you have every right to ensure safety. If a post earlier is correct and these guys were checked over again by your airport security people and these people were still refused their seats then I'm afraid Spud is correct.
    Well, we have had shoe bombers, underwear bombers, people passing through security with box cutters and other "dangerous materials" so that illustrates the system is not perfect. The pilots are the last line of defense for the passengers before the plane takes off.

    So that kinda nukes Spud's theory now... doesn't it?

    Your airport security doesn't work properly - which to me is far more of a concern than two unarmed passengers being refused flight after being checked twice (especially if an enhanced check is made on the second search).
    The pilots felt otherwise about these two passengers. See italicized above.

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Perhaps the US need to pick up on it's security checks. People ought to feel safe when they get on a plane. If it was bigotry and bigotry in the US has reached this level they have a real problem.
    How many flights are there in the US daily? Assigning the US a bigot's label is pretty lame when you consider who has done the attacking, and the number of flights that take-off without nary an incident. "Reached this level..."

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    If it was bigotry and bigotry in the US has reached this level they have a real problem.
    Yes. You nailed it. The US as stopped allowing muslims to use airplanes.



    I wish "this" was the level of bigotry in the US, and everywhere; however, the level of bigotry goes WAY BEYOND a disturbance on an airplane - everywhere in the world. Get a grip.

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Well, we have had shoe bombers, underwear bombers, people passing through security with box cutters and other "dangerous materials" so that illustrates the system is not perfect. The pilots are the last line of defense for the passengers before the plane takes off.

    So that kinda nukes Spud's theory now... doesn't it?
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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Or, they were a disturbance and it doesn't much matter if that was over-reaction or legitimate concern. We don't need a major disturbance continuing into the flight, that's obvious. Somewhere between over-reaction and legitimate concern is the truth, but the plane's undisturbed journey is the pilot's primary concern.
    Yes, and black people on the bus used to be a disturbance.

    Those North Carolinians need to grow some balls.

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    What did the pilot see that three security checks missed?
    I do not know, and neither do you, but these men or women believed the plane should leave the taxi-way and return to the terminal. These pilots don't take such action for fun.

    First it automatically causes a level of scrutiny by the authorities of several departments. You think they want to go through debriefings of why they made that choice? The EASY choice would have been to hope all went OK and put the bird in the air. I am 100% sure they realized the seriousness of their actions and were willing to carry through on it anyway.

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I do not know, and neither do you, but these men or women believed the plane should leave the taxi-way and return to the terminal. These pilots don't take such action for fun.

    First it automatically causes a level of scrutiny by the authorities of several departments. You think they want to go through debriefings of why they made that choice? The EASY choice would have been to hope all went OK and put the bird in the air. I am 100% sure they realized the seriousness of their actions and were willing to carry through on it anyway.

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    Right, and considering that A) They stuck the imams on the next flight, and B) That nothing happened on that next flight, it seems to me that the pilot's fears were entirely unfounded.
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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Right, and considering that A) They stuck the imams on the next flight, and B) That nothing happened on that next flight, it seems to me that the pilot's fears were entirely unfounded.
    It just goes round n round dont it?

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Yes. You nailed it. The US as stopped allowing muslims to use airplanes.



    I wish "this" was the level of bigotry in the US, and everywhere; however, the level of bigotry goes WAY BEYOND a disturbance on an airplane - everywhere in the world. Get a grip.
    So you are saying you are a bigoted nation that no longer allows Muslims on areoplanes and you seem to find that no big thing because you also engage in even more bigotry. Not all of you yet, so there may still be hope but you are presenting a pretty sick picture of your country.
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