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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Plane bound for North Carolina.

    That's half the explanation.

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Plane bound for North Carolina.

    That's half the explanation.
    Yep, it was on a plane so that makes sense. People are a tad edgy now and rightfully so. Show me the video of these imams supporting the death of bin Laden and I'll let them fly.

    Hell, show me ANY damn video of muslims celebrating the death of a mass murderer. Bill O points out, they've been DAMN quiet.

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    I just found another story on this that says that the TSA asked the plane to come back to the terminal, even though the TSA denies it.

    Muslim leaders removed from Delta Connection flight *| ajc.com
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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Dea View Post
    Muslim group: two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina - CNN.com

    I understand the fear after all that has happened over the past few years. However is it necessary to pull two individuals who have passed security off a plane, because they've made some people uncomfortable?
    No, that was simply ignorance and prejudice. People who blow up planes don't look like they'll be blowing up plane (playing poker)

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    were headed to North Carolina for a conference on prejudice against Muslims, or Islamaphobia
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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    No, that was simply ignorance and prejudice. People who blow up planes don't look like they'll be blowing up palins

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    No, that was simply ignorance and prejudice. People who blow up planes don't look like they'll be blowing up plane (playing poker)
    These people looked like they did. But werent going to. Logic fail.
    Also people who do, dont look like theyre going to. Hence they are able to. Double fail.

    Show me the video of these imams supporting the death of bin Laden and I'll let them fly.
    They likely don't fulfill the wishes of every squaking ape who trundles by.

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    These people looked like they did. But werent going to. Logic fail.
    Also people who do, dont look like theyre going to. Hence they are able to. Double fail.
    Every terrorist attack/plot involving planes I can think of was done by people in plain cloths. I shouldn't of worded it the way I did, but that doesn't detract from my over-all point. There was nothing indicating that these people were going to do anything. They should sue the air lines and would be justified in doing so (even though I don't agree with law suits).

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Every terrorist attack/plot involving planes I can think of was done by people in plain cloths. I shouldn't of worded it the way I did, but that doesn't detract from my over-all point. There was nothing indicating that these people were going to do anything. They should sue the air lines and would be justified in doing so (even though I don't agree with law suits).
    The 19 muslims that flew planes into buildings didn't look like they were going to do anything either. Look how that turned out.

    There is no real easy answer to this. But the underlying fact is.....nobody has a right to fly. You buy a ticket, you can be refunded that ticket cost and not allowed to board. Basically, it's the old "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" idea. You have the right to fly in general, but you can't force any particular airline to fly you.

    The TSA can't order a plane back to a gate to pick up a passenger. A pilot is the captain of the ship. He can refuse anyone the right to board. He usually never does, but he CAN. If you are intoxicated he can refuse you boarding. It all falls back on the right to fly, which does not exist. Now, if they are refused flight, they should get full refunds but that didn't happen so that's good.

    I would refuse all muslims the right to fly if it were up to me, but that still wouldn't solve the issue. So it's not an easy thing to deal with. I don't think there is a right answer.

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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    the underlying fact is.....nobody has a right to fly. You buy a ticket, you can be refunded that ticket cost and not allowed to board. Basically, it's the old "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" idea. You have the right to fly in general, but you can't force any particular airline to fly you.
    Not so sure about this. I could be wrong, but I think the Civil Rights Act applies to airlines. They can't just discriminate against you for no good reason.

    They had a good enough reason to pull them off the flight if the pilot himself was making a protest. Now they need to investigate the pilot and see if he acted improperly, and sanction him if he did.

    I would refuse all muslims the right to fly if it were up to me
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    Re: Two imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Hell, show me ANY damn video of muslims celebrating the death of a mass murderer. Bill O points out, they've been DAMN quiet.
    I was watching on the news the day after the killed bin Laden and they showed a Muslim family celebrating down at Ground Zero, so you fail. Plus, what's with the expectation they should do more than the average American when it comes to celebrating?
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