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    Re: Drone Targets Yemeni Cleric

    I think the thread title is very unfair to the drone.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Drone Targets Yemeni Cleric

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    Good point. At what point does an American citizen stop being a criminal, and start being an enemy of the state?
    Also a good point.
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    Re: Drone Targets Yemeni Cleric

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I think the thread title is very unfair to the drone.
    LOL. I just copied the article title.
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    Re: Drone Targets Yemeni Cleric

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    LOL. I just copied the article title.
    Poor little guy is just doing his job. He doesn't even know who he is shooting at
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Drone Targets Yemeni Cleric

    I haven't thought much about exactly where the line is, but I think taliban johnny should have been summarily executed on the battlefield - intel be damned.

    If it was my call...

    Ladies and gentlemen (and I use the terms loosely), we have an American on the field and he is wearing the wrong uniform. And he's shooting in the wrong direction. What do we do about that? *bang*
    Last edited by ecofarm; 05-07-11 at 01:07 PM.

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    Re: Drone Targets Yemeni Cleric

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I haven't thought much about exactly where the line is, but I think taliban johnny should have been summarily executed on the battlefield - intel be damned.

    If it was my call...

    Ladies and gentlemen (and I use the terms loosely), we have an American on the field and he is wearing the wrong uniform. And he's shooting in the wrong direction. What do we do about that? *bang*
    You think his intel value was irrelevant?
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Drone Targets Yemeni Cleric

    It's not capital punishment. It is a matter of national security. He's a threat, even captive. It sends the message: "Fire on us and we will not take you back".

    The intel is not worth being soft on battlefield treason.
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    Re: Drone Targets Yemeni Cleric

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's not capital punishment. It is a matter of national security. He's a threat. It sends the message: "Fire on us and we will not take you back".

    The intel is not worth being soft on battlefield treason.
    I'd perhaps try him for treason after extracting whatever intel I could from him.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Drone Targets Yemeni Cleric

    You just caught a guy with enemy in organized attack against US troops and you want to give him a trial for treason?

    Just for fun? Are you a lawyer? What's this about? The dude just shot at you and your friends, on the battlefield.



    We could argue about the intel, but I think giving a damn about it is disrespectful.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 05-07-11 at 01:25 PM.

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    Re: Drone Targets Yemeni Cleric

    I think information that can potentially save additional lives is worth more than summarily meting out punishment/vengeance. That's just me though.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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