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    Re: Mysterious stealth helicopter used in bin Laden raid...

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    If that tail piece (let me say, thingy), is so super-secret then why was it not destroyed? The SEAL team extracted a number of people and none were injured; thus, they were not likely under fire when leaving. If they were not leaving under fire, then they had all the time (and presumably stuff that explodes) they wanted.

    Did they run out of time or exploding stuff? No drone shot? No bonfire made from furniture?


    I think they left behind a thingy with cardboard and duct-tape mods.
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    Re: Mysterious stealth helicopter used in bin Laden raid...

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    If that tail piece (let me say, thingy), is so super-secret then why was it not destroyed?
    it fell outside the wall. they got the rest of the helo, but at night, they didn't see/go after the tail.

    The SEAL team extracted a number of people and none were injured; thus, they were not likely under fire when leaving.
    bare minutes from a major military base. time is limited on these things.

    I think they left behind a thingy with cardboard and duct-tape mods.

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    Re: Mysterious stealth helicopter used in bin Laden raid...

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pzycho View Post
    I thought they went in in the afternoon.
    true.
    The tweeter dude said it was 1 AM when he first heard the helicopter. I would be amazed if they went in during daylight.

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Watch this video, particularly at 2:06. There are several reports that this occurred.

    SEALs Used Secret Stealth Helicopter
    Very interesting. I don't know how to explain the tweets in light of this. Maybe the EMP didn't reach his house or something.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    If that tail piece (let me say, thingy), is so super-secret then why was it not destroyed? The SEAL team extracted a number of people and none were injured; thus, they were not likely under fire when leaving. If they were not leaving under fire, then they had all the time (and presumably stuff that explodes) they wanted.

    Did they run out of time or exploding stuff?
    They were under serious time pressure because Pakistan didn't know about the operation, and were likely to scramble fighter jets to the area as soon as they learned something was up.

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    Re: Mysterious stealth helicopter used in bin Laden raid...

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    true. but you don't design a helicopter for use between the hours of noon and 7pm local time. you design it for a 24 hour op potential. given that combat is a competitive game, we are rapidly getting to the point where we are perhaps even better at night than we are during the day. Charlie fears the night, now.
    Actually, believe the mission was conducted 3:00 in the afternoon our time. Translated to 1:00 AM local time.

    And from what I have read nothing only the craft was silver or shiny. The skin is that radar evading stealthy composite used on the planes....


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    Re: Mysterious stealth helicopter used in bin Laden raid...

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    If that tail piece (let me say, thingy), is so super-secret then why was it not destroyed? The SEAL team extracted a number of people and none were injured; thus, they were not likely under fire when leaving. If they were not leaving under fire, then they had all the time (and presumably stuff that explodes) they wanted.

    Did they run out of time or exploding stuff? No drone shot? No bonfire made from furniture?


    I think they left behind a thingy with cardboard and duct-tape mods.
    This is the first time I've been able to examine this photograph for more than a few seconds when it was flashed on the TV screen.

    It appears to me that the tail boom in on the outside of the compound. We also know that that aircraft made a hard landing, which could mean that he under shot his LZ and snapped the tail boom off when he hit the wall.

    Now, if it is actually on the outside of the compound, it's understandable how the members of the assault team wouldn't have been able to actually exit the compound and destroy it properly. The Pak units in the area were being held at bay, but that wasn't going to last forever.

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    Re: Mysterious stealth helicopter used in bin Laden raid...

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It would never have been used if the chance of it being revealed was not acceptable.


    Again, that it is something that was supposed to be destroyed with the rest of the chopper. You weren't supposed to see it. Period

    The 160th pilots are top notched to say otherwise. However, they have their share of crashes on real missions. **** happens

    Um, no. You simply cannot use cruise missiles for something like that. The team in place has to destroy as much as it can, which is in fact what was reported to have happened.
    Why they didn't call in a run. Haven't a clue

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    Re: Mysterious stealth helicopter used in bin Laden raid...

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Pak units in the area were being held at bay, but that wasn't going to last forever.
    Affirmative.

    Freedom of movement - restricted
    The town - paki .mil. No time to pile it up in a nice neat bundle and burn throughly.

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    Re: Mysterious stealth helicopter used in bin Laden raid...

    Jesus, one of the... if not the... most dangerous and sophisticated black ops missions ever attempted was successful beyond belief, yielding thousands of documents, thumb drives, computers, cell phones that will delight our intelligence analysts for years to come... and all some of you can do is piss and moan about it? This couldn't just be partisian hackery, could it? I mean, we're ALL Americans and we're ALL proud of this razor-sharp military achievement... amirite? Well, AM I?

    Sheesh.

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    Re: Mysterious stealth helicopter used in bin Laden raid...

    Partisan hackery? Excuse me a moment, I've a question.

    If we extracted a dozen or so people (or did the Pakis do that?), then someone should have had time to blow the wall and blow the tail. Hell, throw a cinder-block of c4 over the wall and go back to the extraction. The only thing I can figure is that people came to the tail very soon after it landed and blowing it would have killed civilians. I don't get how people are painting this as a "mistake". I think there was time to make the move, drones were probably overhead and could do it themselves (and those drones surely saw the piece if it was outside the wall), etc... There's a reason it did not get blown. It was probably not just "oops! forgot about that!".

    I still say it was duct-tape and cardboard (maybe a can of grey spraypaint). I add that I suspect civilians (or Paki police/etc) were somehow near it or within blast danger.
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    Re: Mysterious stealth helicopter used in bin Laden raid...

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Why they didn't call in a run. Haven't a clue
    probably they didn't realize it was there. Raids are merely organized chaos - at high speed and the enemy and weather both get votes that can counter your own. They had kind of sort of just launched a raid into an area of questionable stability, killed target No. 1 in the world, and were on a tight frame. We lost no one, and though this sucks; it's an acceptable loss.
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