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    Re: Furious bin laden supporters vow to take revenge

    Quote Originally Posted by pzycho View Post
    We did not *target* innocents.
    Not on purpose anyways. Or I hope not.

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    Re: Furious bin laden supporters vow to take revenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    People annoyed at their flag being burned reminds you of wild riots over cartoons where people were actually murdered???

    No sense of proportion whatsoever.
    yes, people calling for the bombing of the people of Pakinstan because of flags being burned most definitely reminds me of the lunatics who go crazy over others drawing funny pics of their prophet.

    unless of course you think its reasonable to want to bomb Pakistan because some of their citizens burnt a US flag?

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    Re: Furious bin laden supporters vow to take revenge

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Not on purpose anyways. Or I hope not.
    Of course not. I mean the mission is to free the people and help them stand on their own. Or at least that was the explicit mission in some parts of Iraq 2003-2007, like Tal Afar, Ramadi, ... Due to the fact that we were not postured for counterinsurgency then meant that we couldn't trust anyone we ran into and this mistrust led to mistakes. Also, the policy was not to harm innocents but the reality was that some troops were ****ing blood thirsty and didn't give a **** and committed crimes and other troops were trigger happy and couldn't control their fire, like when lighting up a car that followed to closely to a 5 ton down a Baghdad highway. Also the helicopter video - they thought they were dealing with insurgents, and I believe they were. It just happened that journalists were trying to get stories from the insurgents, a common theme throughout the conflict. These were not policy situations per se, although the second and third were within the bounds of the ROE.

    Now, once we got into 2007 and unassed ourselves from the FOBs, we started patrolling and LIVING with the population and thus started building real relationships and in short order stopped the civil war. Counterinsurgency, baby. And in a country sophisticated enough to develop. (i.e. NOT AFGHANISTAN) By this point, it's the security services of Iraq on point, with our assist, and not many innocents were killed.

    Ok, so let us say that we killed 250 innocent civilians. Damn shame and not intentional. In fact the instances where it did occur were completely counterproductive, no? Al'qaeda and the insurgents killed thousands of innocents. They targeted them. Do we see the difference?

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    Re: Furious bin laden supporters vow to take revenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    yes, people calling for the bombing of the people of Pakinstan because of flags being burned most definitely reminds me of the lunatics who go crazy over others drawing funny pics of their prophet.

    unless of course you think its reasonable to want to bomb Pakistan because some of their citizens burnt a US flag?
    What "people" want to bomb Pakistan for burning a flag, and is the burnng of the flag the only reason these "people" are suggesting such a thing?

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    Re: Furious bin laden supporters vow to take revenge

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    From your link:

    The American forces first ferried the terrorist's body to the USS Carl Vinson for DNA tests to confirm a match with members of his extended family. His body was then wrapped in a white shroud while Islamic rites were administered and dropped into the Arabian Sea in a weighted bag, to ensure his final resting place could not become a shrine for extremists
    Your original statement:

    The reports now are that only one BG fired on the seal team, he was subdued early on and the team then went through the property whacking the rest then took UBL's body, burned it, and dumped it into the ocean...
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    Re: Furious bin laden supporters vow to take revenge

    Quote Originally Posted by pzycho View Post
    LIVING with the population and thus started building real relationships and in short order stopped the civil war.
    I think it can stop poverty. We have to be a part of it, or we can't help fix it. We need to stop the brain drain. We don't have enough soldiers, though, and that's not their job. People gotta do it.

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    Re: Furious bin laden supporters vow to take revenge

    Foul.

    ric is claiming inside info.

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    Re: Furious bin laden supporters vow to take revenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    From your link:



    Your original statement:
    Believe want you want to believe

    Thermite grenades burn at insanely hot temperatures....nuff said

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    Re: Furious bin laden supporters vow to take revenge

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Believe want you want to believe

    Thermite grenades burn at insanely hot temperatures....nuff said
    Yes, nuff nonsense said.
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    Re: Furious bin laden supporters vow to take revenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Yes, nuff nonsense said.
    Not to worry, Ditto.

    Once Obama turns over all privy info to U.N. human rights investigators, you'll get to the bottom of this

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