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U.S. Payrolls Grew 244,000 in April; Unemployment at 9%

A job growth of 244,000 last month, the biggest since May of 2010 looks pretty good to me, considering that it occurred when the prices of fuel was approaching all time highs.
 
A job growth of 244,000 last month, the biggest since May of 2010 looks pretty good to me, considering that it occurred when the prices of fuel was approaching all time highs.

Why is it so hard for some to say that the numbers are improving but nowhere where we need them to be. What policies has the administration pushed for this year to improve this condition.
 
Hate to break this to some but the way Unemployment numbers are figured and reported were change in the 80s under Reagan whom I backed other than this and a couple other issues, I will hold in reserve.

If today we were using the formula we did before the changes we would be closer to the truth and that would be close to 17%.

Check it for yourself, just Google what are the real Unemployment numbers and see what you find.
 
I just want everyone here to know that regardless of who is in charge of what country unemployment has been a tough nut to crack:
US: 9.2%
UK: 7.7%
Canada: 7.6%

Then in Germany, where they were going under many economical changes and actually expecting the market crash of 08, had a 11% unemployment rate in 2005 and is just now to 6.4% this is under different leaders, and the entire time (other than going flat during the crash for a few months) it steadily declined due to government intervention, higher regulation, job education investment, and so on.

HOWEVER even more interesting is China's unemployment for years stayed at 10% then right around 2007 and since then has been down to 4% and stayed that way since. Hmmm I wonder where they got all those jobs from...
 
The unemployment rate doesn't tell the whole picture, when companies are hiring more, people are out looking for jobs and this will cause the rate to go up because of claims.

Here are the facts that you continue to ignore. When Obama took office there were 12.653 million unemployed people, January 2009 including Discouraged workers. Today there are 14.736 million unemployed plus discouraged workers so we are still 2+ million more unemployed today than when Obama took office and that is after spending over a trillion dollars on a so called stimulus program. Is this really a success? BLS.gov
 
I just want everyone here to know that regardless of who is in charge of what country unemployment has been a tough nut to crack:
US: 9.2%
UK: 7.7%
Canada: 7.6%

Then in Germany, where they were going under many economical changes and actually expecting the market crash of 08, had a 11% unemployment rate in 2005 and is just now to 6.4% this is under different leaders, and the entire time (other than going flat during the crash for a few months) it steadily declined due to government intervention, higher regulation, job education investment, and so on.

HOWEVER even more interesting is China's unemployment for years stayed at 10% then right around 2007 and since then has been down to 4% and stayed that way since. Hmmm I wonder where they got all those jobs from...

A siginificant number of Chinese are underemployed, or in rather unproductive positions

A grocery store in China has a clerk nearly at every produce table and down each grocery isle. Something you would never see in Canada or the US. China also engaged in a massive stimulus program building infrustructure projects throughout the country ( a large amount of high speed trains)

Germany was in the years before the crash making some labour market reforms, and tends to cut hours rather then jobs. Which ensures the skills of the workers stays high and makes responding to growth rather easy. Secondly Germany is benifiting from the growth in China, it has a balanced trade account with China and is exporting to China the things China needs
 
A siginificant number of Chinese are underemployed, or in rather unproductive positions

A grocery store in China has a clerk nearly at every produce table and down each grocery isle. Something you would never see in Canada or the US. China also engaged in a massive stimulus program building infrustructure projects throughout the country ( a large amount of high speed trains)

Germany was in the years before the crash making some labour market reforms, and tends to cut hours rather then jobs. Which ensures the skills of the workers stays high and makes responding to growth rather easy. Secondly Germany is benifiting from the growth in China, it has a balanced trade account with China and is exporting to China the things China needs

I don't think Obama has a clue how our economy works and the fact that it is a private sector, not public sector economy. The way to grow a private sector economy if for the Federal Govt. to provide incentive and then get out of the way, not micro manage it. It is time to get back to defining the role of the Federal and State Governments in this country and until that happens and the Federal Govt. gets back to the role envisioned and created by our Founders we are going to continue to massively grow the entitlement mentality and create unsustainable and massive debt. Too many in this country are dependent on the Federal Govt. and have adopted an entitlement mentality. The fact remains after 2 plus years of Barack Obama unemployment is higher and employment lower than when he took office and that is after massive Federal spending.
 
A siginificant number of Chinese are underemployed, or in rather unproductive positions

A grocery store in China has a clerk nearly at every produce table and down each grocery isle. Something you would never see in Canada or the US. China also engaged in a massive stimulus program building infrustructure projects throughout the country ( a large amount of high speed trains)

Germany was in the years before the crash making some labour market reforms, and tends to cut hours rather then jobs. Which ensures the skills of the workers stays high and makes responding to growth rather easy. Secondly Germany is benifiting from the growth in China, it has a balanced trade account with China and is exporting to China the things China needs

All good points, however a huge amount of our jobs still have gone to China. We also have decent agreements with Germany, as there are several jobs in United States from German companies. In my area alone I can name off Stober, Mubea, Mercades, and I'm sure there are much more. High speed rails hell that would make some jobs. We need some more of those.
 
All good points, however a huge amount of our jobs still have gone to China. We also have decent agreements with Germany, as there are several jobs in United States from German companies. In my area alone I can name off Stober, Mubea, Mercades, and I'm sure there are much more. High speed rails hell that would make some jobs. We need some more of those.

Whose job is it to maintain those high speed rail projects after completed? Is your state ready to pay for high speed rail from D.C. to Florida?
 
And don't forget that 62,000 of the 244,000 gain in employment was McDonald's hiring fair. Take those minimum wage jobs out and the numbers don't look so great.

Funny you would mention this (and it came from Rush Limbaugh), when the Wall Street Journal reports that NONE of the McDonald's jobs was included in the April Report.

A liar named Rush Limbaugh said:

The Wall Street Journal said:

Rush Limbaugh just doesn't get it, or maybe he does and just happens to be one of the biggest serial liars in US history.
 
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Funny you would mention this (and it came from Rush Limbaugh), when the Wall Street Journal reports that NONE of the McDonald's jobs was included in the April Report.





Rush Limbaugh just doesn't get it, or maybe he does and just happens to be one of the biggest serial liars in US history.

Whether or not they were included is irrelevant as the facts from BLS show more people unemployed today than when Obama took office, higher numbers this month vs. last and fewer people employed than last month or when Obama took office. The picture isn't pretty regardless of how you look at it.
 
Funny you would mention this (and it came from Rush Limbaugh), when the Wall Street Journal reports that NONE of the McDonald's jobs was included in the April Report.





Rush Limbaugh just doesn't get it, or maybe he does and just happens to be one of the biggest serial liars in US history.

Hmmm, Let's see Dana, you pull Limbaugh out of context, and put up along side a Kensyean economist that has a history of deflecting anything harmful to your hero Obama, and all this in an insulting post from a guy that is loathed to admit his true leanings in here DANA!

Let's look at what Limbaugh in the same article reports that MSNBC says, shall we?

For example, here's a story on unemployment, and this is from the MSNBC website. The headline: "Job Pickup May Not Be Enough to Aid Obama -- President riding high moving into election cycle, but economy lurks." He's not riding high. He is eminently beatable and that's one thing that became clear from the Republican debate last night. He is beatable. And, by the way, somebody I know ran into somebody you see on television all the time, a former Democrat pollster in a greenroom of a TV show who said to my friend that the internal polling in the White House is horrible on the Obama reelect, that the internal reelect number that they have in the White House, the internal number is bad, and that's why you see them doing all the reimaging, reimagining, all the things they're doing with Obama to try to build him back up, because their reelect numbers, contrary to what the Drive-Bys are saying in public, and contrary to what all the State-Controlled Media commentators are doing in cable TV, the White House internal reelect numbers are not good. Don't doubt me on this.

You need to step up your game in honesty my friend. Limbaugh is right and you know it.


j-mac
 
This is indeed sad. I think of high speed rail meant more workers could get more done and it would save people money, people would indeed be for it, especially because our entire airline transportation system is totally ruined by high prices. Our country once prided themselves on our rail systems and I think this would be a great thing.

High speed rail in this country is a failure before it is even built, and it will never get off the ground.

j-mac
 
High speed rail in this country is a failure before it is even built, and it will never get off the ground.

j-mac

Well if you don't let it get off the ground of course it will fail.
 
High speed rail in this country is a failure before it is even built, and it will never get off the ground.

j-mac

This country is too big geographically and will require the Federal govt. through Federal Taxpayer to maintain the rail system and we know that is a failure everywhere it is tried.
 
This country is too big geographically and will require the Federal govt. through Federal Taxpayer to maintain the rail system and we know that is a failure everywhere it is tried.

So we could do it over a 100 years ago with no real machinery but now it is impossible?
 
This is indeed sad.

sorry

hi speed rail was one of the first things barack the slasher jettisoned

at the whcd, snl's seth myers teased---how did biden take it in the veep's customary overalls and engineers cap

i guess the slasher just feels we can't afford it

in other words, talk to him
 
So we could do it over a 100 years ago with no real machinery but now it is impossible?

Monthly maintenance and employment expenses. It never was impossible only too costly. We have Amtrax now and it is broke so what makes a high speed rail system more feasible? Dream on.
 
Why would anyone vote to re-elect Obama? What exactly has he done to warrant re-election?

**saved the country from a depression

**made some strides toward health care reform, though he didn't go far enough.

**brought integrity back to the executive branch, especially in regulation.

**Got bin Laden.
 
probably the most effective thing barack the slasher obama has done so far is NOT to dismantle the anti terror policies (gitmo, detention, wiretapping...) of his predecessor

thus allowing our intel agents and navy seals to GET ubl

america is grateful for that
 
**saved the country from a depression

**made some strides toward health care reform, though he didn't go far enough.

**brought integrity back to the executive branch, especially in regulation.

**Got bin Laden.



I am sure you believe that and buy the Obama rhetoric but what exactly did he do to save us from a depression? Economists claim it was TARP that did that and TARP was passed and signed under Bush. Further the recession ended in June 2009 long before Obama had any affect at all. there are 15 million unemployed Americans who are in depression now.

Steps towards socialized medicine you mean?

Integrity? LOL Czars! Lobbyists! Secrecy! Where is the respect?

With the help of enhanced interrogations, yes, he got Bin Laden. It is the Economy and always will be. Where are the jobs? More unemployed! Less employed! 3.5 trillion added to the debt! Yes, he has had quite an affect on the economy.
 
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