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    Re: U.S. Payrolls Grew 244,000 in April; Unemployment at 9%

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Must we rehash the same tired argument in every thread you come across?

    Our national economy lost BILLIONS when the housing bubble burst. Corperate American could NOT pay its way out of ITS debt not only to its shareholders but to investors or the U.S. Treasury (federal loan guarantees). The ONLY entity with the financial clout to bail out the banks (and assist the auto industry) was the U.S. Treasury itself. No matter how many times I or others tell you this or provide you the evidence, you still refuse to believe that Pres. Obama came into office with THE LARGEST DEBT AND DEFICIT OF ANY PRESIDENT IN U.S. HISTORY! But you want to run him out of office on a rail for what? Executing TARP - a program enacted by his predecessor - in a far better fashion than was originally outlined? Trying to get financial support (Stimulus) to the States (which many Governors say they'd have gone bankrupt long ago without) that Conservatives claim are soverign but are still coming to the Treasury with their collective hands out-stretched?

    You really should come down out of those anti-Obama/hardline Conservative clouds and try seeing our nation's economic problems for what they really are. Pres. Obama didn't create this mess! It's been long in the making since the Reagan era only many of you on the Right refuse to accept it. Instead, you defend the enourmous defense spending under every Republican President since Reagan only because our Constitution calls for "providing for the common defense" of the nation. Nevermind that both Reagan and both Bushs run up large deficits primarily via defense spending, none of which was paid for! And you claim that Obama is spending money from the Treasury as if it were his own personal printing press. Yet, you ignore THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT REAGAN, GH AND GW BUSH ALL DID!!! They cared nothing about running up deficits, but you want to condemn Obama for doing so to HELP lift this country out of debt, but you won't say a damned thing about the debts THREE REPUBLIC PRESIDENT ran up.

    You're a hypocrit - a partisan hack of the highest degree. I have no time to waste on folks who refuse to see reason because they refuse to take off their partisan blinders.
    So the world began with Reagan? I don't think so, yet you have the nerve to call someone else a 'partisan hack'??? Get real man.

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    Re: U.S. Payrolls Grew 244,000 in April; Unemployment at 9%

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Must we rehash the same tired argument in every thread you come across?

    Our national economy lost BILLIONS when the housing bubble burst. Corperate American could NOT pay its way out of ITS debt not only to its shareholders but to investors or the U.S. Treasury (federal loan guarantees). The ONLY entity with the financial clout to bail out the banks (and assist the auto industry) was the U.S. Treasury itself. No matter how many times I or others tell you this or provide you the evidence, you still refuse to believe that Pres. Obama came into office with THE LARGEST DEBT AND DEFICIT OF ANY PRESIDENT IN U.S. HISTORY! But you want to run him out of office on a rail for what? Executing TARP - a program enacted by his predecessor - in a far better fashion than was originally outlined? Trying to get financial support (Stimulus) to the States (which many Governors say they'd have gone bankrupt long ago without) that Conservatives claim are soverign but are still coming to the Treasury with their collective hands out-stretched?

    You really should come down out of those anti-Obama/hardline Conservative clouds and try seeing our nation's economic problems for what they really are. Pres. Obama didn't create this mess! It's been long in the making since the Reagan era only many of you on the Right refuse to accept it. Instead, you defend the enourmous defense spending under every Republican President since Reagan only because our Constitution calls for "providing for the common defense" of the nation. Nevermind that both Reagan and both Bushs run up large deficits primarily via defense spending, none of which was paid for! And you claim that Obama is spending money from the Treasury as if it were his own personal printing press. Yet, you ignore THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT REAGAN, GH AND GW BUSH ALL DID!!! They cared nothing about running up deficits, but you want to condemn Obama for doing so to HELP lift this country out of debt, but you won't say a damned thing about the debts THREE REPUBLIC PRESIDENT ran up.

    You're a hypocrit - a partisan hack of the highest degree. I have no time to waste on folks who refuse to see reason because they refuse to take off their partisan blinders.
    Sorry you feel that way but I will put my reputation and results up against yours any day. There are a lot of partisan hacks here especially those that have no problem spending over a trillion dollars on a stimulus package that did nothing but stimulate debt and reduced employment by 2.9 million workers. I don't have a lot of respect for leftwing loons and usually buried them in the market place. The economic ignorance of the left is staggering.

    "Your" President makes Jimmy Carter look good and he along with the declining number of supporters are the ones that are happy to have him in the WH.

    You and others don't have a clue how our economy works and ignores what made this country great. Instead you promote the creation of victims and demonize the private sector most of whom make up 80% of the job creation and are being ignored by Obama and liberal economic policy.

    I don't have much respect either for people who demonize a 1.7 trillion dollar Reagan debt but ignore the 3.5 trillion that Obama has added in just two years.

    Before calling anyone a hypocrit or partisan hack look in the mirror. Get a job in the real world and then come back and tell me how you did.

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    Re: U.S. Payrolls Grew 244,000 in April; Unemployment at 9%

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    not quite.

    In post #124

    I ask you this question

    This was your reply in post #126




    Tell me, why you don’t think that it is a loan? After all when the someone has equity in a company (in this case the Gov. ) and call it a loan, there is a pretty good case for assuming it’s a loan.Then you have this little factoid.

    April 28, 2011

    < The U.S. government is going to be out of the auto business - at least the auto business run from Auburn Hills, Mich., - as the Chrysler Group LLC announces a plan that will repay the $7.5 billion in loans made to Chrysler by the U.S. Treasury Dept. and the Canadian government.>

    Chrysler to Repay Bailout Loans With More Loans - AutoObserver

    Ahem… another year and a half to go,hard telling how many American jobs can be saved if Obama has his way.
    Why wasn't it a loan? Hmmm, the govt. had majority control of the company and put its own individual in charge. That isn't a loan, that is a take over. Chrysler and GM repaid taxpayer loans with new loans and the govt. paid over $52 a share to GM/Chrysler for controllling interest. Those shares are worth $32 today.

    Obama is just your kind of President, implementing a European style socialist economy with cradle to grave coverage. Interesting that many of those European countries are undoing that disaster they have. Arrogant liberals are always smarter than previous liberals, right?

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    Re: U.S. Payrolls Grew 244,000 in April; Unemployment at 9%

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So the world began with Reagan? I don't think so, yet you have the nerve to call someone else a 'partisan hack'??? Get real man.

    j-mac
    Thanks, exactly to the point.

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    Re: U.S. Payrolls Grew 244,000 in April; Unemployment at 9%

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    DETROIT (AP) -- A union official says General Motors plans to add 250 to 400 jobs at its transmission factory in Toledo, Ohio.

    Local union President Ray Wood says GM will invest $260 million to build fuel-efficient, eight-speed automatic transmissions in Toledo starting late next year.

    CEO Dan Akerson and United Auto Workers Vice President Joe Ashton are scheduled to make the announcement on Monday, along with local and state elected officials.
    union reps, gm's ceo and the uaw?

    LOL!

    said what?

    84 billion is 84 billion, bud

    bottom line

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    Re: U.S. Payrolls Grew 244,000 in April; Unemployment at 9%

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    union reps, gm's ceo and the uaw?

    LOL!

    said what?

    84 billion is 84 billion, bud

    bottom line
    Makes one feel warm and fuzzy doesn't it?

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    Re: U.S. Payrolls Grew 244,000 in April; Unemployment at 9%

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    despite the impact nature has had on our national economy coupled with higher gas prices, the private sector continues to add jobs.
    yes, mcdonalds hired sixty thousand and ONE MILLION americans appeared desperate to flip those burgers

    what's that say about the state of our economy

    I predict that as the summer comes around we'll start seeing alot more hiring in housing (re)construction
    Housing crash is getting worse Brett Arends&#39; ROI - MarketWatch

    and infrastructure
    Obama: "No Such Thing as Shovel-Ready Projects" - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

    All-in-All, the 2Q jobs report for FY2011 is looking pretty good under the circumstances.
    cuomo, brown and two dozen other governors are slashing like never before in our memory

    cities and counties are doing the same

    truly, the loss in public sector employment will be difficult to overcome

    inflation in gas and food are killing consumers

    the shaky dollar is spooking investors

    interest rates will rise

    and mcdonalds isn't likely to be hiring soon

    the weather should improve, it's true

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    Re: U.S. Payrolls Grew 244,000 in April; Unemployment at 9%

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    living on that public pension, huh?
    not yet, but soon

    as i've been saying for years, the amount of money coming in to this house is obscene

    stay up

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    Re: U.S. Payrolls Grew 244,000 in April; Unemployment at 9%

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    yes, mcdonalds hired sixty thousand and ONE MILLION americans appeared desperate to flip those burgers

    what's that say about the state of our economy



    Housing crash is getting worse Brett Arends&#39; ROI - MarketWatch



    Obama: "No Such Thing as Shovel-Ready Projects" - Political Hotsheet - CBS News



    cuomo, brown and two dozen other governors are slashing like never before in our memory

    cities and counties are doing the same

    truly, the loss in public sector employment will be difficult to overcome

    inflation in gas and food are killing consumers

    the shaky dollar is spooking investors

    interest rates will rise

    and mcdonalds isn't likely to be hiring soon

    the weather should improve, it's true
    So are you upset the government is not doing more to support artificially high housing prices?
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    Re: U.S. Payrolls Grew 244,000 in April; Unemployment at 9%

    GM's Profit Up, But Results Disappoint - WSJ.com
    GM Seems to be doing ok
    GM's income rose to $3.2 billion, or $1.77 a share, from $865 million or 55 cents a share, lifted by $1.5 billion in gains on sale of holdings in Delphi Automotive LLP and Ally Financial. Without those gains, its earnings before interest and taxes rose 18% to $2 billion, and North American profit climbed just 8% to $1.3 billion, less than analysts had expected. Revenue increased 15%, to $36.2 billion, from $31.5 billion.
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