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    Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    DETROIT (WWJ) Ė According to a new report, 47 percent of Detroiters are Ēfunctionally illiterate.Ē The alarming new statistics were released by the Detroit Regional Workforce Fund on Wednesday.

    ďNot able to fill out basic forms, for getting a job ó those types of basic everyday (things). Reading a prescription; whatís on the bottle, how many you should takeÖ just your basic everyday tasks,Ē she said.

    Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read ę CBS Detroit
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    http://cbsdetroit.files.wordpress.co...port_final.pdf

    I'll leave the commentary to others, then again... my bet is it's because the teachers aren't paid enough for their fabulous performance.

    It can't get any worse, so why not try something different, radical... like vouchers and ridding the city of unionized teachers?

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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    The Report
    http://cbsdetroit.files.wordpress.co...port_final.pdf

    I'll leave the commentary to others, then again... my bet is it's because the teachers aren't paid enough for their fabulous performance.

    It can't get any worse, so why not try something different, radical... like vouchers and ridding the city of unionized teachers?

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    Zimmer! You hit the nail on the head! We aren't paying their teachers enough. And it certainly has nothing to do with how the teachers teach. The students just aren't pickin' up what the teachers are puttin' down. They're all brilliant educators, highly motivated and, Lord knows, are able to motivate kids!! It's those damn students. It's their parents' faults. It's poverty. Of those two things we're certain. But it's absolutely positively not the fault of the teachers or the system. I'm glad you got that oh-so-right.

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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    *shrug*

    It's everyone's fault at the end of the day.

    Learning to read is not too difficult. I had it down way before I ever set foot in a classroom.
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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    The Report
    http://cbsdetroit.files.wordpress.co...port_final.pdf

    I'll leave the commentary to others, then again... my bet is it's because the teachers aren't paid enough for their fabulous performance.

    It can't get any worse, so why not try something different, radical... like vouchers and ridding the city of unionized teachers?

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    Or something radical like proper parenting...

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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    *shrug*

    It's everyone's fault at the end of the day.

    Learning to read is not too difficult. I had it down way before I ever set foot in a classroom.
    No... it is not everyone's fault. It's not a collective screwup of society as a whole.

    There are reasons for this monumental failure to execute a simple task of education... literacy. Of course, when the state of failure of this magnitude is public, the comfortable thing is to try and spread the blame. WRONG.

    It makes the problem worse.

    Midwest Lib...
    That is part of it too, and here again there are root causes for the decay of that segment of society.

    Of course, the solution by some is even more government, which is what caused the damn problem to reach this extreme.

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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    Yes, clearly the reason kids can't read in detroit is purely because of communist unionists intent upon keeping a black liberation theologist in the white house

    *head hits desk*

    After watching an episode of Hard Core Pawn (yes Pawn not Porn) you'd understand perhaps a little bit why this number is as high as it is...

    In all honesty, when its convenient, we blame the parents... when its inconvenient and we need to score cheap political points ITS THE UNIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    All in all, how about we actually ask the kids what the problem is instead of being all "adult" (yeah right) and thinking we have the best answers.

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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    Or something radical like proper parenting...
    No, personal responsibility has nothing to do with this.
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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Yes, clearly the reason kids can't read in detroit is purely because of communist unionists intent upon keeping a black liberation theologist in the white house

    *head hits desk*

    After watching an episode of Hard Core Pawn (yes Pawn not Porn) you'd understand perhaps a little bit why this number is as high as it is...

    In all honesty, when its convenient, we blame the parents... when its inconvenient and we need to score cheap political points ITS THE UNIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    All in all, how about we actually ask the kids what the problem is instead of being all "adult" (yeah right) and thinking we have the best answers.
    It is about unions, it is about parenting, and it is about government, and it is about (well intended perhaps but) destructive Left Wing influence on all three elements.

    Why is it there was more personal responsibility, lower illiteracy and more stable families before government stuck its finger in their lives and tried to "help" them?

    I wish I had Colin Powell's book from the early 90's at hand... as I recall he touched on this subject.

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    No, personal responsibility has nothing to do with this.
    Spud... Thank You.
    With personal responsibility you do not need government.

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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Why is it there was more personal responsibility, lower illiteracy and more stable families before government stuck its finger in their lives and tried to "help" them?
    So government is to BLAME for high divorce rates and lack of personal responsibility...

    I don't even know how your going to begin to explain that one to me. I look forward to the answer.

    And as for literacy rates... it has been proven in countries with strict government control that you can get your population to a literacy rate of 99.9%...

    I think the problem isn't "government" or "more government" or "big government"

    these loose terms you cannot even begin to really explain what they mean...

    and yes we can talk about standardized tests, but really that's a whole nother subject all together. Literacy isn't hard to teach people, especially basic literacy we're talking about in the OP. being able to sign basic forms...

    There's a failure on so many levels and ultimately in the society in which they live. I have heard Detroit isn't exactly the easiest place to live.

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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    So government is to BLAME for high divorce rates and lack of personal responsibility...
    I am pressed for time, but yes. Government creates incentives, and these incentives lead to decay. Powell hit on this in his book as well. The Ghettos are breeding grounds of irresponsibility and societal decay. They were government created with totally other intentions... and regardless where created... Paris or Stockholm, they brought the same results. Decay.

    And as for literacy rates... it has been proven in countries with strict government control that you can get your population to a literacy rate of 99.9%...

    I think the problem isn't "government" or "more government" or "big government"
    Of course you don't because you just advocated... we don't have enough government involvement!!!

    What lacks is what Spud stated. Personal responsibility... of individuals like Teachers (eliminate their unions), Parents (reduce the influence of government in their lives concerning school choice and handouts) and students of a certain age (let them know it is a sink or swim proposition, that it is their choice because government is not going to be your Mommy... and things will change.

    Personal responsibility and full flexibility for parents to choose and this decay will begin to reverse course.


    There's a failure on so many levels and ultimately in the society in which they live. I have heard Detroit isn't exactly the easiest place to live.
    No **** Jackson, and why is there decay of such a monumental level? Government intrusion in people's lives... a key factor in eliminating personal responsibility.

    As stated earlier... Thanks Spud... you nailed it, for with personal responsibility you greatly reduce, almost eliminate the need for government.

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