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Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read

Blue Dog said:
In other words, no matter how much money we throw at education, it still does not seem to have an impact. Another reason to dismantle the Dept of Education.
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because it plays such a HUGE role in the education process
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The Federal Role in Education

Overview

Education is primarily a State and local responsibility in the United States. It is States and communities, as well as public and private organizations of all kinds, that establish schools and colleges, develop curricula, and determine requirements for enrollment and graduation. The structure of education finance in America reflects this predominant State and local role. Of an estimated $1.13 trillion being spent nationwide on education at all levels for school year 2010-2011, a substantial majority will come from State, local, and private sources. This is especially true at the elementary and secondary level, where about 89.2 percent of the funds will come from non-Federal sources.

That means the Federal contribution to elementary and secondary education is about 10.8 percent, which includes funds not only from the Department of Education (ED) but also from other Federal agencies, such as the Department of Health and Human Services' Head Start program and the Department of Agriculture's School Lunch program.

Although ED's share of total education funding in the U.S. is relatively small, ED works hard to get a big bang for its taxpayer-provided bucks by targeting its funds where they can do the most good. This targeting reflects the historical development of the Federal role in education as a kind of "emergency response system," a means of filling gaps in State and local support for education when critical national needs arise. ...
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Councilman said:
Is there an ethnic component to this story?

It has been reported that the 8th graders of my generation was were equal to college graduates with an Associates degree today. I wish I knew that a long time ago I could have got my Masters degree two years sooner.

The Welfare system is geared to break up families as a way to keep minorities down. Look at the history and pay attention as you do and it will come to you.
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so this is the quality of a post whose author possesses a masters degree



while also decrying the nominal literacy present in detroit



please note the absence of any factual foundation to support the allegations made



may God help us all
 
Half of Detroiters can't Read.........

.........because the other half of Detroiters can't write.

A Liberal Utopia.....

Detroit school board president struggles to write a coherent sentence; does it matter? | MLive.com

Detroit school board president struggles to write a coherent sentence; does it matter?

Otis Mathis admits he struggles to write coherent sentences, but he serves as president of the Detroit Board of Education.

In a column today, Laura Berman of the Detroit News shared a couple of email messages indicating just how poorly Mathis writes.

•If you saw Sunday's Free Press that shown Robert Bobb the emergency financial manager for Detroit Public Schools, move Mark Twain to Boynton which have three times the number seats then students and was one of the reason's he gave for closing school to many empty seats.

•Do DPS control the Foundation or outside group? If an outside group control the foundation, then what is DPS Board row with selection of is director? Our we mixing DPS and None DPS row's, and who is the watch dog?
Mathis was placed in special education classes in Middle School, says he graduated from High School with a 1.8 grade point average and went on to earn a bachelor's degree in criminal justice at Wayne State University.
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Liberalism....Unions.....Socialism.......The Democrat Party...........REALIZED!.
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.....The Divided Socialist States of (D)etroit......keep voting Democrat.....were getting there.
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Centrehalf said:
It's even worse than you think it is.

Sex acts by Otis Mathis a terrible example to kids | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

I put this up so that you can see what kind of men lead the Detroit School District. The woman who wrote this is named Rochelle Riley, she is a columnist for the Detroit Free Press and is a died in the wool progressive. Notice the bit about halfway through the piece where she references the fact that not only was the man in question a pervert, he was also functionally illiterate....and he was the President of the school board!

I've lived in a lot of places in this country, and some of them are pretty screwed up (California and Massachusetts I'm looking at you), but I was born and raised in Detroit and I currently live here. As bad as a few other places are I swear to God that sometimes living in Detroit is like living in Bizarro land. Only in Detroit would this be tolerated.

I can't wait to move back to the DFW Metroplex.
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an excellent - and articulate - reader comment to that story. here is an excerpt:
... People need to expect more, do more, participate more, if they WANT more. People need to stop defending bad behaviors and start taking people to task. Until the citizens of Detroit take ownership of their city and push back against the, as Rochelle perfectly put, "trifling" apologists who will make every excuse for the disgusting, ill-educated behaviors of it's leaders...then Detroit will be stuck as the brunt of every late-night joke. Detroit deserves better.
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said commenter must not have attended the same classes, or be instructed by the same teachers, as those other detroit residents now found to be unable to read and write
 
wayne state university should have its credentials questioned if this is found to be true:
... Mathis was placed in special education classes in Middle School, says he graduated from High School with a 1.8 grade point average and went on to earn a bachelor's degree in criminal justice at Wayne State University.
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at least he learned how to engage in criminal acts
 
Centrehalf said:
It's even worse than you think it is.

Sex acts by Otis Mathis a terrible example to kids | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

I put this up so that you can see what kind of men lead the Detroit School District. The woman who wrote this is named Rochelle Riley, she is a columnist for the Detroit Free Press and is a died in the wool progressive. Notice the bit about halfway through the piece where she references the fact that not only was the man in question a pervert, he was also functionally illiterate....and he was the President of the school board!

I've lived in a lot of places in this country, and some of them are pretty screwed up (California and Massachusetts I'm looking at you), but I was born and raised in Detroit and I currently live here. As bad as a few other places are I swear to God that sometimes living in Detroit is like living in Bizarro land. Only in Detroit would this be tolerated.

I can't wait to move back to the DFW Metroplex.
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Having resided in the end result.......the porta potty that Liberalism produces............

Bearing witness.......to Failure upon Failure a Statist Liberal Government yields......

.....how are you not running to strongly conservative? Or are you merely in transit........
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Badmutha said:
Half of Detroiters can't Read.........

.........because the other half of Detroiters can't write.

A Liberal Utopia.....



Liberalism....Unions.....Socialism.......The Democrat Party...........REALIZED!.
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I guess if you hire or appoint the stupid ones, they'll do anything you want. Pathetic. Just pathetic.

Google this jamoke. He was accused by a school superintendent of fondling his genitals for 20 minutes during a meeting with her...subsequently submitted his resignation...subsequently rescinded his resignation. Sex acts by Otis Mathis a terrible example to kids | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

There's a backstory here that would raise our hairs...

No wonder Detroit is a complete disaster.
 
Badmutha said:
Having resided in the end result.......the porta potty that Liberalism produces............
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I wouldn't call Reaganomics and the failure of the 'trickle down' theory of the 80's liberal. I'm mean, that's just a moronic statement.

Only a completely uneducated person would blame only 'liberalism' for poverty.

I have to assume the poster hasn't the background to understand the complicated economic and public policy issues that created poverty in the Detroit area.
 
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I wouldn't call Reaganomics and the failure of the 'trickle down' theory of the 80's liberal. I'm mean, that's just a moronic statement.

Only a completely uneducated person would blame only 'liberalism' for poverty.

I have to assume the poster hasn't the background to understand the complicated economic and public policy issues that created poverty in the Detroit area.
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We can make it as complicated as you like........or as simple......

At some point in ever Liberal's life they have to question COINCIDENCE........and realize the complete lie and utter fraud that is Liberalism.

The Poorest American Cities of 2008 (1-30)

1. Detroit, 33.3% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 52 years
2. Cleveland, 30.5% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 20 years
3. Buffalo, 30.3% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 43 years
4. Newark, 26.1% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 102 years
5. Miami, 25.6% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 52 years
6. Fresno, 25.5% in poverty--Republican Mayor for the last 13 years
7. Cincinnati, 25.1% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 29 years
8. Toledo, 24.7% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 20 years
9. El Paso, 24.3% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 120 years
10.Philadelphia, 24.1% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 57 years
11. Milwaukee, 23.4% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 49 years
12. Memphis, 23.1% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 133 years
13. St. Louis, 22.9% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 60 years
14. Dallas, 22.6% in poverty--Republican Mayor for the last 2 years
14 New Orleans,22.6% in poverty-Democrat Mayor for the last 141 years
16. Atlanta, 22.4% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 130 years
17. Stockton, Calif., 21.6% in poverty--No info available--probably Libs
18. Minneapolis, 21.3% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 35 years
19. Pittsburgh, 21.2% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 21 years
20. Tucson, 20.9% in poverty--No info available--probably Libs
21. Chicago, 20.6% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 78 years
22. Columbus,Ohio 20.1% in poverty-Democrat Mayor for the last 9 years
23. Long Beach, Calif., 19.8% in poverty--No info available--probably Libs
24. Houston, 19.5% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 88 years
25 Los Angeles,19.4% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for "the last 8 years"
26. Baltimore, 19.3% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 42 years
27 San Antonio,19.2% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 38 years
28. Phoenix, 18.9% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 5 years
29. Boston, 18.7% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 79 years
30. Denver, 18.4% in poverty----Democrat Mayor for the last 46 years

Regardless of the intentions, the good will, and "the feelings" behind one's statist ideology.........

........there comes a point.......when you can no longer ignore the end result......because its always the end result.

The Porta Potty known as Detroit.......The Great Blue (D)epression state of Michigan........are Liberalism's glaring billboards.
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Badmutha said:
We can make it as complicated as you like........or as simple......

At some point in ever Liberal's life they have to question COINCIDENCE........and realize the complete lie and utter fraud that is Liberalism.
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If you believe it's that simple, then there's really no point to you continuing in a serious thread.

I don't know what level you reached in school -- but at some point you should have encountered U.S. History, Poli Sci, and some social studies. At some point you would have learned that there are various levels of government, local, city, state, federal... All with various policies, sometimes conflicting.

I don't know if you've ever read anything high school level or above on Economics, but to tie a city's poverty level to one single factor, the particular party of a city's mayor, is laughably stupid... A simpleminded talking point RW media tries to sell to their flock.


Regardless of the intentions, the good will, and "the feelings" behind one's statist ideology.........

........there comes a point.......when you can no longer ignore the end result......because its always the end result.
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Why don't you pick five cities, and lay out for us the particular 'liberal' policy(s) that resulted in the poverty?

The Porta Potty known as Detroit.......
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And while you're knocking a major American city, why don't you tell us what city you live in. "Undisclosed".??
 
Badmutha you causal relationship fallacy aside, can you or any of those who blame teachers and unions actually show any evidence? Like I said, I love sarcasm and humor, but actual debate requires some factual evidence. i would like to do more here than make fun of your fallacious arguments. :coffeepap
 
hazlnut said:
If you believe it's that simple, then there's really no point to you continuing in a serious thread.
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I said we can make it complicated if you want........

.........what local Detroit Democrat policies are encouraging growth?....welcoming Business?....providing a better education for da childen?

I don't know what level you reached in school -- but at some point you should have encountered U.S. History, Poli Sci, and some social studies. At some point you would have learned that there are various levels of government, local, city, state, federal... All with various policies, sometimes conflicting.

I don't know if you've ever read anything high school level or above on Economics, but to tie a city's poverty level to one single factor, the particular party of a city's mayor, is laughably stupid... A simpleminded talking point RW media tries to sell to their flock.
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Cities with Democrat Mayors....tend to have Democrat City Councils.....Democrat School Boards.......Unions.....High Crime.....High Unemployment....High Poverty....and an unbearable stench........

.....there are many factors involved.......all of which pale in comparison to the ever growing problem of Statism.

Whydon't you pick five cities, and lay out for us the particular 'liberal' policy(s) that resulted in the poverty?
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The Poorest American Cities of 2008 (1-5)

1. Detroit, 33.3% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 52 years
2. Cleveland, 30.5% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 20 years
3. Buffalo, 30.3% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 43 years
4. Newark, 26.1% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 102 years
5. Miami, 25.6% in poverty--Democrat Mayor for the last 52 years

......DECADES of Democrat leadership later........where is the Utopia?


And while you're knocking a major American city, why don't you tell us what city you live in. "Undisclosed".??
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Im knocking a porta potty of an American City.......The end result of Liberalism........a black eye of the country.
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Its hard to teach crack babies to read. I mean we are talking about Detroit.
 
TheBook said:
*shrug*

It's everyone's fault at the end of the day.

Learning to read is not too difficult. I had it down way before I ever set foot in a classroom.
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Yeah, I don't believe in simple explanations for these things, really.

For a lot of people it is not difficult. For many others, yeesh.
Actually they had to catch me early on. I had to go to reading classes when I was 5 in order to catch up to my grade level. Even afterwards it was a struggle for years.

Then you have to compete with the numerous demands, struggles on kids down in such a place like Detroit. Then you get to their learned indifference....and yadda yadda. Eventually it is as if they and the world around them is messed up.
 
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justabubba said:
wayne state university should have its credentials questioned if this is found to be true:


at least he learned how to engage in criminal acts
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Unfortunately, that is true. Wayne State is well known in this area as a diploma mill. I think they should have their accreditation revoked. They awarded a master's degree to a man who can barely read and write, and he's not even close to being the only one.
 
hazlnut said:
Why is that? Please explain.
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A crack baby is a child who was expossed to crack cocaine by thier mother when they were a fetus. Many of these children grow up with learning disabilities. There was an epidemic of crack use in Detroit as in many other cities like Chicago, Buffalo, and Redondo Beach.
 
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Badmutha said:
Having resided in the end result.......the porta potty that Liberalism produces............

Bearing witness.......to Failure upon Failure a Statist Liberal Government yields......

.....how are you not running to strongly conservative? Or are you merely in transit........
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I'm socially liberal, I'm a fiscal conservative. Given the choices I had to pick from when choosing my lean on this forum, slightly liberal seemed to be the best fit, even though it's far from perfect. Conservative in my state means social conservative, and I think that those people, at least locally and state-wide, are just as bad as the group that runs the City of Detroit.
 
SgtRock said:
A crack baby is a child who was expossed to crack cocaine by thier mother when they were a fetus. Many of these children grow up with learning disabilities.
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Incorrect, they are usually born premature and addicted to crack--both medical issues are treatable, the baby is as capable of learning as any other.

There was an epidemic of crack use in Detroit as in many other cities like Chicago, Buffalo, and Redondo Beach.
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Please provide links showing the crack epidemic in Redondo Beach.

IMHO - your pathetic ramblings are of the ignorant and racist variety. You mean to say it's hard to teach 'black' babies to read, right?

You and the Badmutha see Detroit as one big ghetto. And you see black people as less intelligent monkeys. You hide your racism behind snide little remarks -- but we catch your drift.

It's not hard to teach crack babies, black babies, white babies or any baby to read. It requires loving parents and devoted teachers.
 
hazlnut said:
Incorrect, they are usually born premature and addicted to crack--both medical issues are treatable, the baby is as capable of learning as any other.



Please provide links showing the crack epidemic in Redondo Beach.

IMHO - your pathetic ramblings are of the ignorant and racist variety. You mean to say it's hard to teach 'black' babies to read, right?

You and the Badmutha see Detroit as one big ghetto. And you see black people as less intelligent monkeys. You hide your racism behind snide little remarks -- but we catch your drift.

It's not hard to teach crack babies, black babies, white babies or any baby to read. It requires loving parents and devoted teachers.
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I said nothing of the sort. I was born and raised downriver in a Detroit suburb. I saw what drugs did to that city. So please stop with the personal attacks.
 
SgtRock said:
I said nothing of the sort. I was born and raised downriver in a Detroit suburb. I saw what drugs did to that city. So please stop with the personal attacks.
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Answer my question -- why is it hard to teach a crack baby to read? Tell us what you meant when you said that.
 
hazlnut said:
Incorrect, they are usually born premature and addicted to crack--both medical issues are treatable, the baby is as capable of learning as any other.



Please provide links showing the crack epidemic in Redondo Beach.

IMHO - your pathetic ramblings are of the ignorant and racist variety. You mean to say it's hard to teach 'black' babies to read, right?

You and the Badmutha see Detroit as one big ghetto. And you see black people as less intelligent monkeys. You hide your racism behind snide little remarks -- but we catch your drift.

It's not hard to teach crack babies, black babies, white babies or any baby to read. It requires loving parents and devoted teachers.
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why do you call people racist when they post factually correct statements. the fact is American black society has several detrimental social pathologies that cause many members of that community to underachieve or end up in jail. It is not racist to note those pathologies-indeed real racism involves enabling such behavior by castigating those who point it out.
 
hazlnut said:
Answer my question -- why is it hard to teach a crack baby to read? Tell us what you meant when you said that.
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its easy, anyone who has physical or mental challenges is going to be harder to educate than a child that comes from a nurturing family and does not have to deal with both addiction and living in an environment that produced such an addiction. People who are crack addicts can be safely said to be less attentive parents than most people and have low self esteem and often poor work and social habits
 
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