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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    So, voucher schools in high crime and poverty neighborhoods will attract quality teachers how?

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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    The Report
    http://cbsdetroit.files.wordpress.co...port_final.pdf

    I'll leave the commentary to others, then again... my bet is it's because the teachers aren't paid enough for their fabulous performance.

    It can't get any worse, so why not try something different, radical... like vouchers and ridding the city of unionized teachers?

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    You would be wrong. However, any evidence this is the fault of teachers? In another thread, someone told me you guys are not blaming teachers. Was he wrong?

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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Zimmer! You hit the nail on the head! We aren't paying their teachers enough. And it certainly has nothing to do with how the teachers teach. The students just aren't pickin' up what the teachers are puttin' down. They're all brilliant educators, highly motivated and, Lord knows, are able to motivate kids!! It's those damn students. It's their parents' faults. It's poverty. Of those two things we're certain. But it's absolutely positively not the fault of the teachers or the system. I'm glad you got that oh-so-right.

    *sarcasm*
    Again, any evidence that it is teachers or the union. We can all use sarcasm. I personally love good sarcasm, but as teacher at private schools do nothing different than they do at public schools, I would love to see actual evidence.

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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    The Report
    http://cbsdetroit.files.wordpress.co...port_final.pdf

    I'll leave the commentary to others, then again... my bet is it's because the teachers aren't paid enough for their fabulous performance.

    It can't get any worse, so why not try something different, radical... like vouchers and ridding the city of unionized teachers?

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    I'm not a supporter of unions, but this issue goes far, far beyond bad schools. (Side note: even if we DID rid Detriot of unions in schools we'd still have budget problems, Michigan had the largest percentage decrease in population per the census...money is leaving that state as fast as possible)

    Detroit has become about as close to my version of hell as possible. It is falling in on itself like an urban black hole. Manufacturing and distribution jobs left, and so did the money. Police cars are stolen, cops hesitate to patrol out of fear, and the city government is at a loss. The citizens are angry and desperate and beyond poor (for the most part). Schools and education are not high on the list up there right now.
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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    The Report
    http://cbsdetroit.files.wordpress.co...port_final.pdf

    I'll leave the commentary to others, then again... my bet is it's because the teachers aren't paid enough for their fabulous performance.

    It can't get any worse, so why not try something different, radical... like vouchers and ridding the city of unionized teachers?

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    LOL,

    I guess Detroit vote liberal and is too democratic. Now it is enjoying the liberal "education".
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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dog View Post
    In other words, no matter how much money we throw at education, it still does not seem to have an impact. Another reason to dismantle the Dept of Education.
    yes
    because it plays such a HUGE role in the education process
    The Federal Role in Education

    Overview

    Education is primarily a State and local responsibility in the United States. It is States and communities, as well as public and private organizations of all kinds, that establish schools and colleges, develop curricula, and determine requirements for enrollment and graduation. The structure of education finance in America reflects this predominant State and local role. Of an estimated $1.13 trillion being spent nationwide on education at all levels for school year 2010-2011, a substantial majority will come from State, local, and private sources. This is especially true at the elementary and secondary level, where about 89.2 percent of the funds will come from non-Federal sources.

    That means the Federal contribution to elementary and secondary education is about 10.8 percent, which includes funds not only from the Department of Education (ED) but also from other Federal agencies, such as the Department of Health and Human Services' Head Start program and the Department of Agriculture's School Lunch program.

    Although ED's share of total education funding in the U.S. is relatively small, ED works hard to get a big bang for its taxpayer-provided bucks by targeting its funds where they can do the most good. This targeting reflects the historical development of the Federal role in education as a kind of "emergency response system," a means of filling gaps in State and local support for education when critical national needs arise. ...
    Federal Role in Education
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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Is there an ethnic component to this story?

    It has been reported that the 8th graders of my generation was were equal to college graduates with an Associates degree today. I wish I knew that a long time ago I could have got my Masters degree two years sooner.

    The Welfare system is geared to break up families as a way to keep minorities down. Look at the history and pay attention as you do and it will come to you.
    so this is the quality of a post whose author possesses a masters degree



    while also decrying the nominal literacy present in detroit



    please note the absence of any factual foundation to support the allegations made



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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    Half of Detroiters can't Read.........

    .........because the other half of Detroiters can't write.

    A Liberal Utopia.....

    Detroit school board president struggles to write a coherent sentence; does it matter? | MLive.com

    Detroit school board president struggles to write a coherent sentence; does it matter?

    Otis Mathis admits he struggles to write coherent sentences, but he serves as president of the Detroit Board of Education.

    In a column today, Laura Berman of the Detroit News shared a couple of email messages indicating just how poorly Mathis writes.

    If you saw Sunday's Free Press that shown Robert Bobb the emergency financial manager for Detroit Public Schools, move Mark Twain to Boynton which have three times the number seats then students and was one of the reason's he gave for closing school to many empty seats.

    Do DPS control the Foundation or outside group? If an outside group control the foundation, then what is DPS Board row with selection of is director? Our we mixing DPS and None DPS row's, and who is the watch dog?
    Mathis was placed in special education classes in Middle School, says he graduated from High School with a 1.8 grade point average and went on to earn a bachelor's degree in criminal justice at Wayne State University.
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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrehalf View Post
    It's even worse than you think it is.

    Sex acts by Otis Mathis a terrible example to kids | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

    I put this up so that you can see what kind of men lead the Detroit School District. The woman who wrote this is named Rochelle Riley, she is a columnist for the Detroit Free Press and is a died in the wool progressive. Notice the bit about halfway through the piece where she references the fact that not only was the man in question a pervert, he was also functionally illiterate....and he was the President of the school board!

    I've lived in a lot of places in this country, and some of them are pretty screwed up (California and Massachusetts I'm looking at you), but I was born and raised in Detroit and I currently live here. As bad as a few other places are I swear to God that sometimes living in Detroit is like living in Bizarro land. Only in Detroit would this be tolerated.

    I can't wait to move back to the DFW Metroplex.
    an excellent - and articulate - reader comment to that story. here is an excerpt:
    ... People need to expect more, do more, participate more, if they WANT more. People need to stop defending bad behaviors and start taking people to task. Until the citizens of Detroit take ownership of their city and push back against the, as Rochelle perfectly put, "trifling" apologists who will make every excuse for the disgusting, ill-educated behaviors of it's leaders...then Detroit will be stuck as the brunt of every late-night joke. Detroit deserves better.
    said commenter must not have attended the same classes, or be instructed by the same teachers, as those other detroit residents now found to be unable to read and write
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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    wayne state university should have its credentials questioned if this is found to be true:
    ... Mathis was placed in special education classes in Middle School, says he graduated from High School with a 1.8 grade point average and went on to earn a bachelor's degree in criminal justice at Wayne State University.
    at least he learned how to engage in criminal acts
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