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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    Big government...

    Small government...

    Your entire point erodes away when we simply go... how about we have a good government.

    I'm not saying government has all the answers.

    It's a difference in philosophy and purpose.

    I see government as a medium, as a tool, that, WE, THE PEOPLE, use to pool our resources together to achieve a certain goal, whether that is health care for our fellow citizens and ourselves, or education to make sure our kids are competitive in a global economy...

    "Personal Responsibility" doesn't build schools.

    "Personal Responsibility" doesn't make sure that there's busses so kids can reach their schools in the morning, and get home safely in the afternoon.

    "Personal Responsibility" Doesn't make sure that teachers aren't rapists and pedophiles

    Personal Responsibility makes sure that their kids are doing their homework, attending class and getting the encouragement and help that they need to achieve the goals set out for them.

    THAT's personal responsibility.

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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    I will note that there are many factors involved. Having said that, there are some small things that can be done to improve reading outcomes. In my school district, some extra things that are done include:

    1. Cross-disciplinary grading e.g., a student can do poorly in a history class if he/she cannot write clearly. In other words, grammar matters, not just in an English class and there is no escaping the consequences of bad writing.

    2. Required regular reading of The New York Times with students being expected to be familiar with current events. The purpose is less about familiarity with current events--though I personally think such awareness is important for any competent citizen--than it is about exposing students intensively to decent writing.

    3. Homework. Multiple hours of homework is given each night. There has been push back from some parents who, IMO, seem to think schools should be "parent-centered" rather than learning-centered. Some argue that children need a rest after school (really code words for doing other things than studying). Some complain that such workloads interfere with their own work schedules (parents shouldn't be micromanaging, so that complaint is baseless).

    To make a long story short, it is no surprise that my school district in the suburbs of NYC is typically ranked in the top 100 nationwide. What happens in the classroom is part of the learning process. What happens outside is considered an extension of the learning process.

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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    In other words, no matter how much money we throw at education, it still does not seem to have an impact. Another reason to dismantle the Dept of Education.
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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    The Report
    http://cbsdetroit.files.wordpress.co...port_final.pdf

    I'll leave the commentary to others, then again... my bet is it's because the teachers aren't paid enough for their fabulous performance.

    It can't get any worse, so why not try something different, radical... like vouchers and ridding the city of unionized teachers?

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    You know the report the article is quoting, well firstly it isn't a report its really an article and promo based on another report which it doesn't source, but you know the one I'm talking about? Its suggestions are increased funding for teachers and english teaching programs...

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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    You know the report the article is quoting, well firstly it isn't a report its really an article and promo based on another report which it doesn't source, but you know the one I'm talking about? Its suggestions are increased funding for teachers and english teaching programs...
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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    The Report
    http://cbsdetroit.files.wordpress.co...port_final.pdf

    I'll leave the commentary to others, then again... my bet is it's because the teachers aren't paid enough for their fabulous performance.

    It can't get any worse, so why not try something different, radical... like vouchers and ridding the city of unionized teachers?

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    Probably because there are public schools with unionized teachers who do just fine. How about... we deal with the actual problems?

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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    There is no excuse for illiteracy. This report is talking about adults that can't fill out a job application, not kids in school. Of course they used to be kids in school that couldn't read, as there are likely many illiterate children at this time.

    It sounds like they need more adult education classes in Detroit. Just because you can't read doesn't mean that you cannot learn to read now. The problem is that illiterate adults usually try to hide the fact out of embarrassment. Kind of like adults that can't swim.
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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    The Report
    http://cbsdetroit.files.wordpress.co...port_final.pdf

    I'll leave the commentary to others, then again... my bet is it's because the teachers aren't paid enough for their fabulous performance.

    It can't get any worse, so why not try something different, radical... like vouchers and ridding the city of unionized teachers?

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    This is beyond sad. Truly pathetic.
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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    Is there an ethnic component to this story?

    It has been reported that the 8th graders of my generation was were equal to college graduates with an Associates degree today. I wish I knew that a long time ago I could have got my Masters degree two years sooner.

    The Welfare system is geared to break up families as a way to keep minorities down. Look at the history and pay attention as you do and it will come to you.

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    Re: Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Canít Read

    It's even worse than you think it is.

    Sex acts by Otis Mathis a terrible example to kids | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

    I put this up so that you can see what kind of men lead the Detroit School District. The woman who wrote this is named Rochelle Riley, she is a columnist for the Detroit Free Press and is a died in the wool progressive. Notice the bit about halfway through the piece where she references the fact that not only was the man in question a pervert, he was also functionally illiterate....and he was the President of the school board!

    I've lived in a lot of places in this country, and some of them are pretty screwed up (California and Massachusetts I'm looking at you), but I was born and raised in Detroit and I currently live here. As bad as a few other places are I swear to God that sometimes living in Detroit is like living in Bizarro land. Only in Detroit would this be tolerated.

    I can't wait to move back to the DFW Metroplex.
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