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    Re: Obama Says He Will Not Release Bin Laden Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Ok, now, can you tell me that there's not a chance that this "evidence" could have been produced fraudulently??
    In this case there was a body, not just words, corpus delicti, and that's better than any hearsay evidence one can come up with. Is it conclusive, definitely not. Nothing humans do or say is conclusive, even if it's taped or has a dozen eye witnesses.

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    Re: Obama Says He Will Not Release Bin Laden Photo

    If it were a lie, Osama could merely make another video.

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    Re: Obama Says He Will Not Release Bin Laden Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    Yeah, al'Qaeda's confirmation of his death is fraudulent evidence because they're all in on the conspiracy too. The clue train left 10 minutes ago, you should get a refund for your tickets.
    Ok... first :
    SpyTalk - CIA unit's wacky idea: Depict Saddam as gay
    The agency (CIA) actually did make a video purporting to show Osama bin Laden and his cronies sitting around a campfire swigging bottles of liquor and savoring their conquests with boys, one of the former CIA officers recalled, chuckling at the memory. The actors were drawn from “some of us darker-skinned employees,” he said.
    So, we've already had fake bin laden videos in the past.

    It came out of the SITE group, that's been caught releasing fake videos in the past as well (reportedly where the intelcenter logo was in the same video layer as the alquaida logo), is connected to Blackwater, and has repeatedly released tapes at politically useful times...

    Finally, did they confirm his death or did they confirm his death as the US has been trying to explain with shifting stories and busted in lies.

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    In this case there was a body, not just words, corpus delicti, and that's better than any hearsay evidence one can come up with. Is it conclusive, definitely not. Nothing humans do or say is conclusive, even if it's taped or has a dozen eye witnesses.

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    Ya... but think about ALL OF THE LIES coming out with this story?? It's almost as bad as catching a kid with his had in the cookie jar and a mouthful of cookies and hearing their explanation.

    There was no "scandal" with this talking about how he's been dead for years, it was just all under-reported and nobody really noticed. This will be the final time that bin laden will be pronounced dead, but so much of the story is just wrong.

    I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but don't those in the military have to fill out some sort of after-action report detailing what happened?? So, how could it go from a "big shootout" to "one guy with a gun across the street"... and so on with all these lies...

    This was a crafted story from the start.

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    Re: Obama Says He Will Not Release Bin Laden Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Ok... first :
    SpyTalk - CIA unit's wacky idea: Depict Saddam as gay


    So, we've already had fake bin laden videos in the past.

    It came out of the SITE group, that's been caught releasing fake videos in the past as well (reportedly where the intelcenter logo was in the same video layer as the alquaida logo), is connected to Blackwater, and has repeatedly released tapes at politically useful times...

    Finally, did they confirm his death or did they confirm his death as the US has been trying to explain with shifting stories and busted in lies.



    Ya... but think about ALL OF THE LIES coming out with this story?? It's almost as bad as catching a kid with his had in the cookie jar and a mouthful of cookies and hearing their explanation.

    There was no "scandal" with this talking about how he's been dead for years, it was just all under-reported and nobody really noticed. This will be the final time that bin laden will be pronounced dead, but so much of the story is just wrong.

    I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but don't those in the military have to fill out some sort of after-action report detailing what happened?? So, how could it go from a "big shootout" to "one guy with a gun across the street"... and so on with all these lies...

    This was a crafted story from the start.
    I guess poor Obama, who has been wrong on almost every issue he's faced, didn't see this coming either.

    The Associated Press's Case for Releasing the Bin Laden Photo - Politics - The Atlantic Wire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I guess poor Obama, who has been wrong on almost every issue he's faced, didn't see this coming either.

    The Associated Press's Case for Releasing the Bin Laden Photo - Politics - The Atlantic Wire
    I think he came to realize that since his BC only took a few hours before people were pointing out that it had been manipulated to SOME extent... The know that some independent analysis will show it to be a fake...

    Biggest mistake that in a situation like this they throw the body in the ocean.

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    Re: Obama Says He Will Not Release Bin Laden Photo

    The AP position revolves around "transparency." From the link:

    Last Monday, the AP filed a Freedom of Information Act request for the photographic and video evidence taken during the raid on bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. The organization's FOIA request included a reminder of the president's campaign pledge and a plea to be more transparent than his predecessor. "The Obama White House 'pledged to be the most transparent government in U.S. history," wrote the AP, "and to comply much more closely with the Freedom of Information Act than the Bush
    Showing a mutilated corps is being "transparent", how again? Is it supposed to be proof of .. of what? That Bin Laden is really dead? That he really was shot? Is there some question as to the facts of the matter that could be proven by showing a picture of the dead body?

    There simply is no compelling reason to release the photo. Doing so would prove exactly nothing.
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    Re: Obama Says He Will Not Release Bin Laden Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The AP position revolves around "transparency." From the link:



    Showing a mutilated corps is being "transparent", how again? Is it supposed to be proof of .. of what? That Bin Laden is really dead? That he really was shot? Is there some question as to the facts of the matter that could be proven by showing a picture of the dead body?

    There simply is no compelling reason to release the photo. Doing so would prove exactly nothing.
    The compelling reason is the transparency he promised and this is just another example of him withholding information that some believe to be critical. He is not intended to be Censor in Chief.

    Of course it would be better for him and his supporters if everyone just forgot about this and moved on but the system doesn't work that way, nor should it. Maybe he'll eventually cave as he did with his birth certificate. Who really knows what this guy will do next?

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    Re: Obama Says He Will Not Release Bin Laden Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    There simply is no compelling reason to release the photo. Doing so would prove exactly nothing.
    It is part of the process of evidence collecting

    If, the President had just been up front about this from the beginning, I don't think it would have been a issue.

    What we simple have here is... NO body, NO crime scene photography....NADA

    How are we suppose to stand by the President if he is not being honest?

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    Re: Obama Says He Will Not Release Bin Laden Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    It is part of the process of evidence collecting

    If, the President had just been up front about this from the beginning, I don't think it would have been a issue.

    What we simple have here is... NO body, NO crime scene photography....NADA

    How are we suppose to stand by the President if he is not being honest?
    What do you mean no crime scene photography? Pics of the compound after his killing are on the internet.

    Where are the pics of a deceased Pat Tillman? Where are the crime scene photos? There actually was dishonesty in that whole affair.
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    Re: Obama Says He Will Not Release Bin Laden Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    It is part of the process of evidence collecting

    If, the President had just been up front about this from the beginning, I don't think it would have been a issue.

    What we simple have here is... NO body, NO crime scene photography....NADA

    How are we suppose to stand by the President if he is not being honest?
    If a photo were to be released, naysayers would simply say it was faked. A photo proves nothing at all in the age of digital photography.
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