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Bush declines Obama invitation to go to ground zero

ReverendHellh0und said:
the pentagon was hit too. I think he should have made his statement on the kill and moved on, right now he's giving power to OBL's death to our enemies.
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At the end of the day rev. Obama got OBL. Bush screwed it up when he had him cornered. He was probably still thinkin' of that big lip smackin' from that Sunni Saudi King, don't ya' think?
 
DaveFagan said:
At the end of the day rev. Obama got OBL. Bush screwed it up when he had him cornered. He was probably still thinkin' of that big lip smackin' from that Sunni Saudi King, don't ya' think?
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I think it's rather funny watching a bunch of hippies cheering the killing of an unarmed man. :shrug:
 
VanceMack said:
You can. Please...while you are doing it...make sure it doesnt look like 'them' when they do it. Thats all.
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All I saw was waving the flag and people getting together, and we buried him at sea respectfully... I'd say our record is a lot better than theirs so far.
 
SheWolf said:
All I saw was waving the flag and people getting together, and we buried him at sea respectfully... I'd say our record is a lot better than theirs so far.
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I wholeheartedly agree...and Im even fine with Obama goign to ground zero. I understand politics and politicking and heck, I'll even go so far as to give the guy the benefit of the doubt and believe he is doing it because he believes it is the right thing to do. I just hope that when people go they go with class. Dignity. Dont undo the good that has been done.
 
VanceMack said:
I wholeheartedly agree...and Im even fine with Obama goign to ground zero. I understand politics and politicking and heck, I'll even go so far as to give the guy the benefit of the doubt and believe he is doing it because he believes it is the right thing to do. I just hope that when people go they go with class. Dignity. Dont undo the good that has been done.
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It makes sense to me that he'd go to NYC too... I am not surprised that he is going at all. Like I said, this operation couldn't have gone better, and that alone is enough to cause me to thank God that we didn't lose anymore lives because of that man and he didn't run back into the caves.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
that's cool. Just consider my point of view, while folks are cheering, and some reliving that awful day, I made sure all my provisions were in order, my bolt carrier well oiled, and I sat back with a cigar, and toasted my brothers for a job well done, tipped my hat to the president, and went about my life.
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And just checking. You are aware that your experience is not the universal experience, yes? That what you do is not necessarily what everybody else does, or should do. Right?
 
BDBoop said:
And just checking. You are aware that your experience is not the universal experience, yes? That what you do is not necessarily what everybody else does, or should do. Right?
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i never claimed this.
 
disneydude said:
Wow....we caught Bid Laden because of GWB? I guess we caught Saddam Hussein because of Clinton, right?
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We caught bin Laden largely in part to the policies that GWB implemented - and that Obama has kept in place. We didn't catch him because of Bush himself, but because of his policies. Some of us are able to distinguish the difference between the man and his policies. I don't hate Obama, I hate his policies. To hate him when I've never even met him would be ridiculous. Stop trying to twist what people are saying to fit your agenda.
 
pbrauer said:
Don't be so ****ing sure, it was President Obama that got the job done.
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Obama did a great job...by staying out of the way, for a change. :lamo
 
Temporal said:
Why would Bush ingratiate himself like that? This was Obama's victory.
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This is a victory for the United States. Not Bush and not Obama. That is probably the reason Bush doesn't want to attend the gathering and distract from it's real meaning.
 
BDBoop said:
You claim it with every sideways comment and :shrug: you post.
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what you infer, is your problem sweetheart. Not mine, I told you, point blank what the case is. If you want to bash me for it. be my guest. :shrug:


wait, here's a question? Do you think you could kill him? I mean could you put a loaded gun to his head and shoot the guy yourself? Would you, could you with an m4, would you could you with an m9?

tell me would you feel like celebrating afterwords?


I suggest a book...

On Killing, by LTC david Grossman. It's open your eyes a little, to a world you can not fathom.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
what you infer, is your problem sweetheart. Not mine, I told you, point blank what the case is. If you want to bash me for it. be my guest. :shrug:
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Again with the shrug. It's like a tell in poker.
 
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Crosscheck said:
And if the mission was a failure with deaths of SEALS who would have gotten the blame? Don't bother answering, I already know the answer.
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It would be some high ranking member in the military that would have been served up as a scapegoat by the Obama administration.
 
Zyphlin said:
God forbid people take the time to listen to Bush talk the few times he has since leaving the Presidency, but if you'd step out of your stereotypical bubble you'd likely realize the reason for him not. He has stepped out of the political spectrum primarily. This is Obama's show and he doesn't want to be intruding in on it, popping his face up constantly, having the media start going into back and forths with them, etc. He's content with his 8 years in, was happy for the opportunity, has shown immense class in refusing to attack or degrade Obama during this entire time, and generally is staying in the background and letting things go forward. He likely doesn't want to be there because he knows it'll cause a big ruckus and get a lot of attention, and its not his place to be that any longer in his mind.
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I've heard that it is an unspoken rule that previous Presidents do not criticize each other. And in my memory, I think this is a pretty consistently held rule. They tend to work together on projects than anything else, for disaster relief and such.

But, Carter may have spoken critically of 'W', I believe, and I also remember Carter being criticized for doing so.
 
apdst said:
It would be some high ranking member in the military that would have been served up as a scapegoat by the Obama administration.
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Let me refresh your memory. Would it be names like Graner and England, low ranking scumbags taking the rap for a Smirker-in-Chief who did not and does not have the courage to defend the people following his orders? His military. CIC, head gazabo, numero uno, the bucks stops here, etc.
 
Does anybody know why Bush says he won't go, or are his lips sealed on the issue?
 
DaveFagan said:
Let me refresh your memory. Would it be names like Graner and England, low ranking scumbags taking the rap for a Smirker-in-Chief who did not and does not have the courage to defend the people following his orders? His military. CIC, head gazabo, numero uno, the bucks stops here, etc.
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Here we go, again. :rofl
 
SheWolf said:
Does anybody know why Bush says he won't go, or are his lips sealed on the issue?
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I don't think he said, but it just goes to show how much class he really has.
 
And Rev, what if the president doesn't turn his visit into a victory parade? Would you acknowledge that or still say he shouldn't have done it?
 
SheWolf said:
And Rev, what if the president doesn't turn his visit into a victory parade? Would you acknowledge that or still say he shouldn't have done it?
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Tomorrow's visit to ground zero is nothing but another part of his campaign running for president for a second term. This dork is milking the killing of Bin Laden.
 
Red Crow said:
Tomorrow's visit to ground zero is nothing but another part of his campaign running for president for a second term. This dork is milking the killing of Bin Laden.
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You really think thats true? Assuming it was...dont you think he would have scheduled it on a more politically advantageous occasion? 9/11/11...closer to the election?

This MAY be a purely political stunt...but really? To what political gain? I think you guys are underselling the politician...he's smarter than this. He gains very little from campaign appearances 18 months before the actual election.
 
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