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Bush declines Obama invitation to go to ground zero

What I can't figure out about the Libertarians and the far-righties... They don't want Government to provide handouts, but they still say Obama owes people a job... Very strange.

Really what Libertarians have said that, I would actually like some proof.
 
Yes, because MediaMatters said so. Gotcha. Regardless, it was the military's victory and both Bush and Obama deserve some credit but not all of it.

No, the Associated Press reported that the intel came from KSM during standard interrogation, not torture.

From the AP:

Mohammed did not reveal the names while being subjected to the simulated drowning technique known as waterboarding, former officials said. He identified them many months later under standard interrogation, they said, leaving it once again up for debate as to whether the harsh technique was a valuable tool or an unnecessarily violent tactic.
 
Dubbya has gracefully stayed away from any discussion of Obama or his Presidency.

Bush is most likely not attending because he views this as 'Obama's Presidency', and feels it inappropriate to 'share the limelight' with a sitting President, when the sitting President should have the spotlight to themselves.
 
No, the Associated Press reported that the intel came from KSM during standard interrogation, not torture.

From the AP:

Just like the birth certificate that's been on the internet for 3+ years, you put the facts right in their face and they still can't see them... because the facts contradict the narrative on Fox.
 
Just like the birth certificate that's been on the internet for 3+ years, you put the facts right in their face and they still can't see them... because the facts contradict the narrative on Fox.

why the fixation on fox?
 
This Democratic Party wankery needs to stop.

The President offered, and Bush declined. No shame involved. Neither man is the better or worse for it.
 
I see it completely different... A lot of people must see it differently too, because they went to ground zero when they heard the news and waved the American flag and celebrated.

Sure, because the majority is always right. ;)

It's always good to see our leaders get involved in those moments, because we are not thinking about our parties or politics. It's about our country. I liked when Bush went to ground zero, so I think it would be good to see this president go because Bin Laden is dead now and people are still suffering from 9/11.

I liked it when bush went to Ground Zero too. There was a lot of hurt and fear and confusion and anger, and he had some strong words of encouragement. What he said left me feeling like he was on top of it and that something was getting done about what happened.

I'm not interested in seeing the President make another speech on an otherwise insignificant day. He had his national address when it happened, if he wants to mention it in September that's fine, but there's no reason whatsoever to make a special trek out to New York months in advance.

At any rate, unless by "still suffering" you mean the ones who are struggling with chronic health problems they picked up by breathing the air that day, I don't give a damn at this point. It's been almost a decade, for crying out loud.
 
Bush declines Obama invitation to go to ground zero



I guess he has brush to clear...

I say send a Seal team to the ranch, pick W. up, and bring him to Manhattan.

Sounds unpatriotic & unAmerican to me, but hey, Osama was Bush's best buddy, so Bush is probably depressed to lose his old friend, after spending 8 years protecting Osama's whereabouts. That million dollar pad didn't build itself, if you get the drift.
 
I bet I know which president the Seals would rather hang out with

As the Seals are all about completing the mission, my guess is they would want to hang with the President that gets the job done.... (as will the American electorate)
 
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God forbid people take the time to listen to Bush talk the few times he has since leaving the Presidency, but if you'd step out of your stereotypical bubble you'd likely realize the reason for him not. He has stepped out of the political spectrum primarily. This is Obama's show and he doesn't want to be intruding in on it, popping his face up constantly, having the media start going into back and forths with them, etc. He's content with his 8 years in, was happy for the opportunity, has shown immense class in refusing to attack or degrade Obama during this entire time, and generally is staying in the background and letting things go forward. He likely doesn't want to be there because he knows it'll cause a big ruckus and get a lot of attention, and its not his place to be that any longer in his mind.
 
A dead Laden and long overdue, but it doesn't change anything. There are many out there who want the whole world to be muslims. Convert or die.

This ends absolutely nothing.

It ends nothing, but it was a HUGE milestone nonetheless.
 
God forbid people take the time to listen to Bush talk the few times he has since leaving the Presidency, but if you'd step out of your stereotypical bubble you'd likely realize the reason for him not. He has stepped out of the political spectrum primarily. This is Obama's show and he doesn't want to be intruding in on it, popping his face up constantly, having the media start going into back and forths with them, etc. He's content with his 8 years in, was happy for the opportunity, has shown immense class in refusing to attack or degrade Obama during this entire time, and generally is staying in the background and letting things go forward. He likely doesn't want to be there because he knows it'll cause a big ruckus and get a lot of attention, and its not his place to be that any longer in his mind.

I agree, he wasn't a particularly good president, but he has been a gracious and outstanding ex-president. I would have gladly voted for him as ex-president in 2000, though I did make that vote in 2004.
 
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I fail to see how it would have been different with McCain

Ok... let's start here: FLASHBACK 2008: McCain, Clinton Slam Obama For Saying He'd Go Get Bin Laden In Pakistan (VIDEO) | TPMDC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze_pG6Q62HA&feature=share

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiMKCDDgp9Y&feature=related

http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker...ies-a-big-stick/?cxntfid=blogs_cynthia_tucker

Then, you can throw in the huge political risk Obama took. Had this failed in the manner the hostage rescue of 1979 failed, it would assure him as a one-term president. He never would have recovered.... A cruise missile strike would have been the safe answer. Sorry, you have a long way to go to convince anyone that McCain would have done the same thing. The record says otherwise.
 
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Sounds unpatriotic & unAmerican to me, but hey, Osama was Bush's best buddy, so Bush is probably depressed to lose his old friend, after spending 8 years protecting Osama's whereabouts. That million dollar pad didn't build itself, if you get the drift.

Yeah, it's not like the bin Ladens are one of the wealthiest families in the Middle East, it must have been Bush. :roll:
 
This Democratic Party wankery needs to stop.

The President offered, and Bush declined. No shame involved. Neither man is the better or worse for it.

Is it democratic party wankery, or is it just a few people on the board here. As a member of the democratic party, I don't think I was wanking any.
 
God forbid people take the time to listen to Bush talk the few times he has since leaving the Presidency, but if you'd step out of your stereotypical bubble you'd likely realize the reason for him not. He has stepped out of the political spectrum primarily. This is Obama's show and he doesn't want to be intruding in on it, popping his face up constantly, having the media start going into back and forths with them, etc. He's content with his 8 years in, was happy for the opportunity, has shown immense class in refusing to attack or degrade Obama during this entire time, and generally is staying in the background and letting things go forward. He likely doesn't want to be there because he knows it'll cause a big ruckus and get a lot of attention, and its not his place to be that any longer in his mind.

I would have been nice if Clinton had shown that kind of class.
 
Is it democratic party wankery, or is it just a few people on the board here. As a member of the democratic party, I don't think I was wanking any.

A few people here engaging in Democratic Party wankery. My apologies for not being a bit more specific.
 
I bet you think the Seals would rather hang out with the President who sent them to Iraq to die based on a lie... The President who ordered them to invade a country for disingenuous reasons creating a power void which attracted every extremist in the Middle-East, then ordered them to fight, without an exit strategy, the massive influx of insurgents.

The leader who ordered them stand down last time they had Bin Laden.

The Fake Cowboy vs. the calm cool collected CIC who has the respect of military leaders.

you must not know that many military leaders.

we remember who had our backs and which side was comparing us nazi's when it was politically convenient.
 
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Why is obama coming to the city again?

Really i don't get it.


The day was ours, but no song will be sung.

Yes, mr. President you gave the go order. That still won't bring those i lost back. Your pressense is not needed nor does it sit right. A little creepy even.

For what purpose?
 
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