Why don't you actually try to debate the points I made...???
The liar and failure vs. the current CIC.
Rummy, Cheney and therefore Bush did not have the respect of the military commanders. That trickles down to the soldiers. Iraq was FUBAR. 4,000 needless deaths because of a weakling being manipulated by his V.P. and other advisors with various agendas. By the time Bush realized how bad he had screwed up, Iraq was overrun with insurgents, the oil fields and contracts where not paying off, the debt was piling up... You think the soldiers were not aware of how far their cic had mislead them??
The Peter Principle = "in a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence" -- Incompetence trickles down. Bush had so many bad advisors pushed on him, so many bad agendas, he wasn't bright enough to see he was being manipulated by very powerful business interests. First term was textbook puppetry.
Re: Obama - the reaction Sunday night outside the WH and at Ground Zero says it all. We have a CIC who actually leads.