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    Re: President Obama Approval Rating: Boost From Osama Bin Laden Death Likely

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I don't understand what liberals hope to achieve with this 'He did it too' line of argument in just about everything debated today. Obama is a weak stick to the point of NOT having the 'Change' that he campaigned on, and NO ONE questioned him on in '08.

    If libs are holding out all these examples of past republican Presidents, saying that they took the right course of action, then doesn't that just destroy their own arguments, like how Bush ruined the economy?

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    You would be correct, except for the fact that you are wrong....Obama changed the course on OBL and redirected efforts to capture him ....and we did.
    The economy is also improving....not as quickly as we would like, but it is growing and improving. If Republicans hadn't fought so hard to keep the Bush Tax Cuts for the wealthiest Americans, we would be seeing even more improvement.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: President Obama Approval Rating: Boost From Osama Bin Laden Death Likely

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You would be correct, except for the fact that you are wrong....Obama changed the course on OBL and redirected efforts to capture him ....and we did.
    The economy is also improving....not as quickly as we would like, but it is growing and improving. If Republicans hadn't fought so hard to keep the Bush Tax Cuts for the wealthiest Americans, we would be seeing even more improvement.
    LOL, revisionist history all to hide the actual Obama performance.

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    Re: President Obama Approval Rating: Boost From Osama Bin Laden Death Likely

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You are absolutely correct, in fact, Reagan cut taxes on the wealthy and cut corporate taxes in half.....while raising them on the middle and working class. I guess we all know too well what Reagan thought the "fair share" was.
    The Real Reagan Economic Record: Responsible and Successful Fiscal Policy | The Heritage Foundation


    Under President Reagan, federal revenues increased even with tax cuts, federal spending did not decrease, the country experienced the longest period of sustained growth during peacetime in its history, and the rich paid more taxes proportionately than they had before the tax cuts were implemented.
    Many critics of reducing taxes claim that the Reagan tax cuts drained the U.S. Treasury. The reality is that federal revenues increased significantly between 1980 and 1990:

    Total federal revenues doubled from just over $517 billion in 1980 to more than $1 trillion in 1990. In constant inflation-adjusted dollars, this was a 28 percent increase in revenue.3

    As a percentage of the gross domestic product (GDP), federal revenues declined only slightly from 18.9 percent in 1980 to 18 percent in 1990.4

    Revenues from individual income taxes climbed from just over $244 billion in 1980 to nearly $467 billion in 1990.5 In inflation-adjusted dollars, this amounts to a 25 percent increase.
    Perhaps the greatest myth concerning the 1980s is that Ronald Reagan slashed taxes so dramatically for the rich that they no longer have paid their fair share. The flaw in this myth is that it mixes tax rates with taxes actually paid and ignores the real trend of taxation:

    In 1991, after the Reagan rate cuts were well in place, the top 1 percent of taxpayers in income paid 25 percent of all income taxes; the top 5 percent paid 43 percent; and the bottom 50 percent paid only 5 percent.13 To suggest that this distribution is unfair because it is too easy on upper-income groups is nothing less than absurd.

    The proportion of total income taxes paid by the top 1 percent rose sharply under President Reagan, from 18 percent in 1981 to 28 percent in 1988.14

    Average effective income tax rates were cut even more for lower-income groups than for higher-income groups. While the average effective tax rate for the top 1 percent fell by 30 percent between 1980 and 1992, and by 35 percent for the top 20 percent of income earners, it fell by 44 percent for the second-highest quintile, 46 percent for the middle quintile, 64 percent for the second-lowest quintile, and 263 percent for the bottom quintile.15

    These reductions for the lowest-income groups were so large because President Reagan doubled the personal exemption, increased the standard deduction, and tripled the earned income tax credit (EITC), which provides net cash for single-parent families with children at the lowest income levels. These changes eliminated income tax liability altogether for over 4 million lower-income families.16

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    Re: President Obama Approval Rating: Boost From Osama Bin Laden Death Likely

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You would be correct, except for the fact that you are wrong....Obama changed the course on OBL and redirected efforts to capture him ....and we did.
    The economy is also improving....not as quickly as we would like, but it is growing and improving. If Republicans hadn't fought so hard to keep the Bush Tax Cuts for the wealthiest Americans, we would be seeing even more improvement.
    can we ever expect you to actually cite credible sources for your nonsensical assertions?

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    Re: President Obama Approval Rating: Boost From Osama Bin Laden Death Likely

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The economy is also improving
    oh?

    housing, gasoline, the dollar, the states...

    pensions, deficits, entitlements...

    after population growth, at a rate of 260K per month it will take us years to get out

    If Republicans hadn't fought so hard to keep the Bush Tax Cuts for the wealthiest Americans, we would be seeing even more improvement.
    Obama Calls Tax Cuts the 'Right Thing to Do'

    At Obama's side, Clinton backs tax deal - Politics - White House - msnbc.com

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    Re: President Obama Approval Rating: Boost From Osama Bin Laden Death Likely

    As we close in on the election Obama's one and only correct decision will fade from memory because he has contributed greatly to gas prices by cutting off most drilling operation in the the whole nation, and that of course has caused a huge spike in all other prices for goods and services.

    Speculation has the price of GAS dropping by as much as $.50 by summer, and that will bring the price down to $5.50 a Gal. in Hawaii. Sorry but I'm thinking the people in that State are going to be saying " BIG DAMN DEAL."

    Jobs are not being created fast enough and housing still sucks, so anyone patting Obama on the back needs to look at reality and if when they have done that still think this one event with Osama is a winner we need to round them up and commit them for mental evaluation.

    Obama is now going try to get immigration Amnesty passed and that is not a wining idea either, because even with the phony claims we keep seeing the cost paid to accommodate the illegals go up, and up.

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    Re: President Obama Approval Rating: Boost From Osama Bin Laden Death Likely

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I have seen a couple of polls since this article came out, and it does look like Obama is getting a huge boost in his ratings. But to the Democrats, I say don't take these results to the bank. Bush had a similar jump in ratings, after catching Hussein, yet his poll numbers pancaked to as low as 26% before he left office. The same could very well happen to Obama if he screws up on other issues any more than he has already. 2012 is still a long ways off, and we still have enormous economic problems ahead of us. So yes, let's revel in the moment, then let's get back to work on the serious issues still facing us.

    Article is here.
    Let's see:

    1. Ted Kennedy's seat went to Republicans.
    2. The Midterms were a historic ass kicking.
    3. Obama isn't for repealing his socialist healthkare program that grows more exemptions every day.
    4. Debt is soaring and Obama hasn't proposed cutting squat...
    5. He screwed the pooch in the Gulf of Mexico.
    6. He screwed the pooch on Egypt.
    7. He screwed the pooch on Libya.
    8. Unemployment is 9%... not 8% or less...
    9. He's been spending like a drunk...
    (very, very short list)


    BUT...


    The intel services provide Obama with intel that shows he is most likely in a hothouse in Abbotsford, BC... I mean Abottasabootastan, Pakistan and he has to choose how to deal with it. OK... he made a gutsy call... but this is a fart in a hurricane. Nice Osama is fish food, but sorry... one decent deed doesn't a presidency make or save.

    This ain't gonna plug the damn hole... Sorry.


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    Re: President Obama Approval Rating: Boost From Osama Bin Laden Death Likely

    and obama's one correct decision came about only thru his NOT dismantling the anti terror policies of his predecessor---detention, gitmo, wiretapping...

    even assassination

    who's next, al awlaki, al zawahiri?

    neoconservativism is cool, according to barack the killer

    actions are more real than rhetoric

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    Re: President Obama Approval Rating: Boost From Osama Bin Laden Death Likely

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Didn't liberals claim that with Obama things would be different? Didn't they claim that Obama was going to solve the economic problems we were facing? Now they are claiming that Obama is just doing what Bush and Reagan did. Is that what liberals voted for?
    I can see more people being unemployed after Bush's tax cuts expire. Obama's policies are ruining the economy of this country.

    It's a sin nowadays to be rich. Now Obama is putting all the responsibilities and heavy burdens on the rich, instead of fixing his own screw ups.

    That's what we call leadership!!!! Bravo!!!
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    Re: President Obama Approval Rating: Boost From Osama Bin Laden Death Likely

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crow View Post
    I can see more people being unemployed after Bush's tax cuts expire. Obama's policies are ruining the economy of this country.

    It's a sin nowadays to be rich. Now Obama is putting all the responsibilities and heavy burdens on the rich, instead of fixing his own screw ups.

    That's what we call leadership!!!! Bravo!!!
    Obama is a Community Organizer with zero economic or leadership skills. He is a disaster and the cult followers are blinded by the rhetoric.

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