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    Re: Palin decries water restrictions at Calif. college

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    That's fine, and this will be my last post to you unless you change your mind at some point in time. You have stated yourself that you have no desire to further your knowledge on this situation beyond one viewpoint based on a very short article. I doubt anything I say could sway you, even though if you were to look at my post history that I am not advocate of either side. I am just sick of people reading one thing and pretending they have a grasp on the subject matter.
    The federal government had no authority in the situation. The situation isn't that serious to me. Government is not in the business of worrying about fish.

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    Re: Palin decries water restrictions at Calif. college

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Oh, you mean they finally turned the water back on for the farmers? If not, then she is not late, and it's still a problem.
    A century ago, much of the San Joaquin Valley was an undeveloped dust bowl, its few small farming communities clustered around natural water sources. Today, it is a green expanse of agricultural empires. Most of the water that has irrigated these seemingly endless fields comes from northern California, diverted by an epic system of dams and canals born from New Deal funds. It was one of the most ambitious water systems ever built, and the San Joaquin Valley became, in the words of historian Kevin Starr, "the most productive unnatural environment on Earth."
    Realize first, Barb, that this is in no way a bait, but instead a question to help me calibrate your belief system.

    This area originally flourished due to government action in the form of dams, canals, etc. Firstly, do you believe that these farmers have a fundamental right to this water? If so, why?

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    Re: Palin decries water restrictions at Calif. college

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The federal government had no authority in the situation. The situation isn't that serious to me. Government is not in the business of worrying about fish.
    Well, I've made a liar out of myself for responding, but one part of your post is too important not to respond to. I will ask you the a similar question to what I asked Barb. Do you believe that these farmers have a right to this water? And if so, why should government be in the business of providing an unnatural supply of water to farmers?

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    Re: Palin decries water restrictions at Calif. college

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    Well, I've made a liar out of myself for responding, but one part of your post is too important not to respond to. I will ask you the a similar question to what I asked Barb. Do you believe that these farmers have a right to this water? And if so, why should government be in the business of providing an unnatural supply of water to farmers?
    Remove them. This question however is immaterial. Removing the system that moved the water is not in the governments interest.

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    Re: Palin decries water restrictions at Calif. college

    Palin being an idiot again.. I am shocked.... or not. Maybe if she tried living in a drought area then she would understand.. I know the Sahara is nice this time of year
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    Re: Palin decries water restrictions at Calif. college

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Palin decries water restrictions at Calif. college - Yahoo! News



    This is why that simpleton should never be President. California's water restrictions were imposed after years of drought in the 2000s. The fact that water restrictions were placed on farmers was in part because taking up all the water would affect the state's struggling fishing industry(more specifically the industries that fish the already endangered salmon, steelhead and green sturgeon). In any case it would be a lose-lose situation for the federal government. Let farmers use as much water as they want and kill off a piece of California fishing industry. Or let the fishing industry die off and have thousands of fisherman out of work. The federal government chose to let both industries share the resource. In any case, Palin needed to talk about big bad evil government.

    Economy of California including California Agriculture and Manufacturing from NETSTATE.COM

    **** off and stay in Alaska.
    How about a solution that neither would support: raise prices to market levels so that we ration our supply and don't get into a drought every other year.

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    Re: Palin decries water restrictions at Calif. college

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The federal government had no authority in the situation. The situation isn't that serious to me. Government is not in the business of worrying about fish.
    So screw anyone with a job in the fishing industry, is what you're saying?

    Why can't California protect a vital industry?
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    Re: Palin decries water restrictions at Calif. college

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So screw anyone with a job in the fishing industry, is what you're saying?

    Why can't California protect a vital industry?
    Why is it screwing consumers by not rationing supply with higher prices? Instead we are not allowed to water lawns and wash cars. Is that a better system?

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