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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

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    Not sure that is the best soruce. Seriously.
    Why? They're not American, but they broadcast in English from a relatively independent Arab viewpoint, and they're markedly less biased than Faux, for example.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Why? They're not American, but they broadcast in English from a relatively independent Arab viewpoint, and they're markedly less biased than Faux, for example.
    That's not really saying much. They've also leap over the edge on a few occassions.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Ecofarm, now we are to believe that all the neighbours knew that Osama was living there? If you have rational comments to add that would help the story then produce them. Otherwise your objections come off as only that you want to believe. And they weaken the story more than they strengthen it.

    We need to be able to examine the photo evidence. Nothing else will do and it's doubtful whether or not the photo evidence can put it to rest. The problems started when the official story started to change.

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    By going to Al Jazeera people don't have to automatically believe what they read. That would be silly. But they will get some different viewpoints and be awakened to asking more legitimate questions. Assuming that Americans are allowed to view Al Jazeera site. I believe the t.v. network if blacked out in the US.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

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    Sorry, the above does not compute. Perhaps with a little time you will understand why.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ushaditcoming View Post
    By going to Al Jazeera people don't have to automatically believe what they read. That would be silly. But they will get some different viewpoints and be awakened to asking more legitimate questions. Assuming that Americans are allowed to view Al Jazeera site. I believe the t.v. network if blacked out in the US.
    Wrong, it's not blacked out.....we kinda frown on censorship here....
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    i have written many comments, however, no one has shown any proof laden is dead, interestingly, however, they are happy as if his dead is proven, i really want to immigrate that planet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    They were there. And if they did not believe they got OBL, it would leak. See the entire Bush administration if you doubt me. Secrets are not as kept as they used to be. And I believe there will be photographic evidence, and it will be examined, and what is now be called proofers will likely do what birthers and truthers have done, and go wild. But, it is much more likley that what happened is exactly what has been reported.
    You have no reason to think the story would leak from anyone who was there. You don't even know who was there. I think you just want to believe. I'm not a birther but I am a Trig truther if that's what you mean. I have logical beliefs and I can change my mind. I may be able to change my mind on this story but at the moment I can't imagine what kind of solid proof can be furnished. I suppose that I would accept a DNA analysis of the dead body by an independent examiner but that's no longer possible. The US military has now made it virtually impossible in my opinion to ever verify the story. I believe that's how it's been planned and the reasons are quite obvious.

    Right now I'm leaning toward thinking that Bin Laden was not taken alive or dead. The purpose of all this was closure for the American people. If a body or live person is produced then I may change my opinion and belief. I may not too but it will be based on a rational choice. I don't "want" it to be one way or another. You people should be taking the same position if you want to be credible at this point in time.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Wrong, it's not balcked out.....we kinda frown on censorship here....
    Are you sure you're right about that? Al Jazeera shows a message asking for Americans to demand Al Jazeera. Or at least they did? I'll see if I can find it there.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ushaditcoming View Post
    Ecofarm, now we are to believe that all the neighbours knew that Osama was living there? If you have rational comments to add that would help the story then produce them. Otherwise your objections come off as only that you want to believe. And they weaken the story more than they strengthen it.

    We need to be able to examine the photo evidence. Nothing else will do and it's doubtful whether or not the photo evidence can put it to rest. The problems started when the official story started to change.
    Perhaps Osama (Fishbait) bin Laden can make a public appearance and put all these rumors to rest. That should satisfy all the 'deaders'.

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