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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by soguks View Post
    ..then where is his body? at sea? do you really believe this?
    I do in fact believe Osama bin Laden is dead...if he wasn't, he would have released another video by now.

    That being said, I'm not sure if dumping the body in the ocean was a) truly according to Muslim tradition and b) a good idea given the conspiracy theories that might arise.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by soguks View Post
    ..then where is his body? at sea? do you really believe this?
    Until I have reason not to.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I do in fact believe Osama bin Laden is dead...if he wasn't, he would have released another video by now.
    ...which makes him dead?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    That being said, I'm not sure if dumping the body in the ocean was a) truly according to Muslim tradition and b) a good idea given the conspiracy theories that might arise.
    a) is not

    b) concpiracy is something cia is good at, like the report of nukes in Iraq

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    a) truly according to Muslim tradition
    Some Muslims are upset because you can only be buried at sea if you died at sea. HOWEVER, I think it is better than the alternative of having either people: 1. discrete the grave site and piss a lot of other people off or 2. having some one steal the body and making the new burial site a shrine. I mean the family didn't want it, so I didn't see any problem with Obama doing what he did. In fact I thought that he at least tried to accustom Muslim tradition was a good PR move.

    and b) a good idea given the conspiracy theories that might arise.
    Was going to happen anyways.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by soguks View Post
    ...which makes him dead?



    a) is not

    b) concpiracy is something cia is good at, like the report of nukes in Iraq
    Yes, if he has not released a video by now, it makes him dead. OBL would take any and every chance he has to rub something in America's face. Escaping hot death would certainly provide him a good opportunity.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

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    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    have you ever read how this idiot laden gained power? if you have, then you could have some good reasons not to believe in what The soldiers or someone in the state have said...

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Some Muslims are upset because you can only be buried at sea if you died at sea. HOWEVER, I think it is better than the alternative of having either people: 1. discrete the grave site and piss a lot of other people off or 2. having some one steal the body and making the new burial site a shrine. I mean the family didn't want it, so I didn't see any problem with Obama doing what he did. In fact I thought that he at least tried to accustom Muslim tradition was a good PR move.



    Was going to happen anyways.
    I was just listening to the Diane Rehm show not an hour ago. A guest panelist said that Salafi Muslims like Osama view all shrines (besides Mecca) as heretical anyway.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by soguks View Post
    b) concpiracy is something cia is good at, like the report of nukes in Iraq
    Are you saying that the CIA said there were nukes in Iraq?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Are you saying that the CIA said there were nukes in Iraq?
    are we living in the same planet?

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by soguks View Post
    are we living in the same planet?
    So you don't want to answer the direct question.

    I actually don't know what planet you're living on, so I can't answer your question. I live on Earth Prime. Where do you live?
    I may be wrong.

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