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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    That explains why you continually ramble without saying anything of real value....
    And this was of value? Why is it that I ramble, because I have been waterboarded...been through SERE, or am military?
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

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    Sterotypes are mostly based on truths.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Iirc, upon joining aQ one does not swear an oath to uphold their ideals, but rather swear an oath of fealty to ObL himself. So, "merely symbolic" can have practical impacts.
    You got it wrong....

    1 AQ does not recruit and

    2 They turn people that want to join away.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Then you shouldn't have much trouble articulating your case as an expert rather than merely pointing to the laurels on your seat.
    I wasn't pointing out the "laurels on my seat" I was answering a personal question. If you have a direct question I'll answer it as honestly as I can. Do you have one?

    My only input to this particular "Bush did nothing" argument is that the intelligence that lead to his capture has been building for years.
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    Sterotypes are mostly based on truths.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    You got it wrong....

    1 AQ does not recruit and

    2 They turn people that want to join away.
    I did not make either of the assertions you're refuting.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I believe the saying is:

    "If you're 20 and conservative, you have no heart; if you're 40 and liberal, you have no brain."
    What is really sad is the dumbing of America where many conservatives placed tv reality star Pain on the same level as Ronald Reagan. To many conservatives she was Einstein.

    As H.L. Menken said " Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intellingence of the American public."

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Here is the ol Keith Olbermann's comments on the assassination of Osama Bin Laden
    YouTube - FOK News Channel - Keith Olbermann's Special Comment on Bin Laden


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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    What is really sad is the dumbing of America where many conservatives placed tv reality star Pain on the same level as Ronald Reagan. To many conservatives she was Einstein.

    As H.L. Menken said " Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intellingence of the American public."
    Palin, Bauchman, Pelosi, Trump, Frank, Sharpton, Boxer, Obama, Ventura, Franken, Paul........

    It's amazing how little basic leadership skill, tact, experience, statesmanship, class, and integrity is required to be an elected leader in this country today.

    This is the result of our loss of basic family structure and the resulting lack of moral fiber, which in turn has led to widespread institutionalized government dependence.

    Compare our current "statemen" with those who signed the declaration and the level of debate that occurred in Independence Hall in those days.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Palin, Bauchman, Pelosi, Trump, Frank, Sharpton, Boxer, Obama, Ventura, Franken, Paul........

    It's amazing how little basic leadership skill, tact, experience, statesmanship, class, and integrity is required to be an elected leader in this country today.

    This is the result of our loss of basic family structure and the resulting lack of moral fiber, which in turn has led to widespread institutionalized government dependence.

    Compare our current "statemen" with those who signed the declaration and the level of debate that occurred in Independence Hall in those days.
    Yeah. You can take Pelosi, Obama and Frank off of that list.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    The national security of the United States can never be left in the hands of liberals.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Leon Panetta, the CIA director, has confirmed that controversial "enhanced interrogation techniques" such as waterboarding yielded some of the intelligence information that ultimately led to Osama bin Laden.

    "In the intelligence business you work from a lot of sources of information and that was true here," he told NBC News. "It's a little difficult to say it was due just to one source of information that we got. I think some of the detainees clearly were, you know, they used these enhanced interrogation techniques against some of these detainees."

    The White House and its Capitol Hill allies had earlier been at pains to state that such techniques, used under the Bush administration but banned by Mr Obama as amounting to torture, had not played a part in yielding significant information.

    Mr Panetta's admission lays Mr Obama open to politically explosive claims that bin Laden would not have been killed had it not been for the use of those techniques by the Bush administration.

    In his 2009 Senate confirmation hearings, Mr Panetta, a moderate Democrat and former California congressman, argued that "waterboarding is torture and it's wrong".

    But he stated candidly last night that discussion about its use will continue. "Whether we would have gotten the same information through other approaches I think is always gonna be an open question," he said.
    Osama bin Laden killed: CIA admits waterboarding yielded vital information

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