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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

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    22 years in the military, working with, in and around, intelligence...you tell me.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    omg this "Bush didn't try to catch OBL" BS is getting ridiculous. I will never be Bush's #1 fan (except maybe when it comes to comedic value), but let's drop this bull**** notion that he didn't try to get Osama. He did try, he either just didn't have enough intel to act, or he screwed up (like in Tora Bora). Bush cannot be faulted for lack of trying.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by gekaap View Post
    I'll tell you....I do not believe you.
    You don' believe what?

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    Face palms my mistake that was the short version of the thing
    Sorry, watched all your video's from start to finish. I never once heard this phrase, which you DIRECTLY attributed in quotes to George Bush:

    “I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."

    All I saw, time and time again, was someone asking a question about the THREAT that Bin Laden posed and Bush saying he's not concerned about him in relation to the question. Which is not only absolutely correct, but has been echoed by many liberals on the forum and in the news in the past few days who have pointed out that Osama's capture is little more than symbolism...a wonderful thing, but having little true effect on the operations of Al-Qaeda. Was Bush wanting Osama? Yes. Was he more concerned about other things when it came to the "Threat" posted to the United States...like the question asked to him suggested? Absolutely...and he should've been.

    So I ask, one final time. Supply some kind of legitimate source for this quote you directly attributed to Bush:

    “I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."

    Or admit that you were posting a dishonest made up quote as if it was Bush's when it was not.

    Your video's don't provide it, your wikiquote doesn't provide it, NOTHING you or anyone else has provided evidence of the quote other than saying "Its was said by Bush on March 13th, 2002" which isn't a reference in the least.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    Also here is the link too the press conference in which he actually says it

    Long Bush Flip-Flop List

    Also I used many of the words all I could fine is the YouTube clip and a couple of list that say he is a big fat lie.
    Posting a Bush attack site that simply reposts the exact same unreferenced item with the only "reference" it gives being two more liberal sites who ALSO don't give any reference isn't proving anything. It just further's the push for the exact same unverified, unrecorded, supposed quote.

    If he said it at a press conference, where's the video? The transcript?

    If he said it to a group of reporters, where are the news stories directly from those reporters restating it?

    If he said it in a magazine interview, where's the interview in question?

    There is none. There's some obscure date and a bunch of liberal sites and activists and bloggers reposting each others work as if that somehow validates something when in reality its just all of them slapping each others backsides to spread the bull**** around.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    omg this "Bush didn't try to catch OBL" BS is getting ridiculous. I will never be Bush's #1 fan (except maybe when it comes to comedic value), but let's drop this bull**** notion that he didn't try to get Osama. He did try, he either just didn't have enough intel to act, or he screwed up (like in Tora Bora). Bush cannot be faulted for lack of trying.
    Liberals will always find something to whine and fault find. Even when a nation should be saying thanks to the people who served them so well they'll still look around to find something to complain about.

    There are no more tiresome creatures anywhere in the western world than these people.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Liberals will always find something to whine and fault find. Even when a nation should be saying thanks to the people who served them so well they'll still look around to find something to complain about.

    There are no more tiresome creatures anywhere in the western world than these people.
    I'm a liberal. I'm not bashing Bush. Neither is repeter, who agreed with my post.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Just a reminder to all Bin Laden was not a shooter or even a planner. His demise is important only symbolically. Only

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Liberals will always find something to whine and fault find. Even when a nation should be saying thanks to the people who served them so well they'll still look around to find something to complain about.

    There are no more tiresome creatures anywhere in the western world than these people.
    Are you sure you're independent?

    And FYI, StillBallin was responding to someone else saying Bush should not get any credit for OBL's death.

    That's pretty hypocritical, IMO, to say you're independent, and then to turn around and criticize the most tiresome creatures anywhere in the western world for being bipartisan.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Just a reminder to all Bin Laden was not a shooter or even a planner. His demise is important only symbolically. Only
    I think there is some truth to this, but it's a bit of an exaggeration that he was never a planner. I do agree that he was more of a figurehead with an important image.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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