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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Don't think we have any "reformed/born-again liberals" around here.
    Not sure either I still trying to think back but nope can't think of any that I know of.... I do know a lot of Revisionist of history writers thought but not that many born again Liberals.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    So basically, you're the conservative version of Noodle.
    I am basically a recovered Commi-Lib that hasn't seen fit to "re-rat", to steal a term from Churchill.

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    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Don't think we have any "reformed/born-again liberals" around here.
    everyone is born a liberal....some of us grow up.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    everyone is born a liberal....some of us grow up.
    Not if this forum is any indication lol. Some transform into conservatives...but they don't grow up.
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    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    everyone is born a liberal....some of us grow up.
    0_o Wait............... I don't get the joke.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    the men who provide the information on Osama's courier, which led to his death, were captured, detained, and questioned for that information during Bush's presidency.
    And yet, Bush made no attempt to pursue the matter and to get bin Laden. Which is why Bush deserves no credit for the kill. He gets credit for not caring, for failing to deliver, and that's about it.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by gekaap View Post
    And yet, Bush made no attempt to pursue the matter and to get bin Laden.
    Hogwash.
    I seriously doubt that the info laid dormant waiting on Obama to revive it.

    Also, I suspect that these sorts of things take time. There's mountains of evidence to wade through--who know how much will turn out to be false--to find what's useful.

    But, if you have some evidence that the Bush Admin sat on this info somehow, rather than let the Intelligence Community do their job, please share it.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You think waterboarding began under GWB?
    Absolutely not. GWB just let the cat out of the bag.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by gekaap View Post
    And yet, Bush made no attempt to pursue the matter and to get bin Laden. Which is why Bush deserves no credit for the kill. He gets credit for not caring, for failing to deliver, and that's about it.
    It's amazing how the right wing fails to recognize this basic fact: if he had the intelligence, why didn't act?

    There are only two possible explanations:

    1) He did not have sufficient intelligence on OBL's whereabouts, because, in fact, the "enhanced interrogation techniques" failed to live up to what he was told.

    2) KSM and the other terrorists did break and tell all, but bush ignored it and just sat there.

    Take your pick

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Absolutely not. GWB just let the cat out of the bag.
    ugh....really? That's what you think?
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