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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by gekaap View Post
    Hey everyone, it's good to be glad about this. But don't let it distract us from the important issues facing our country. Namely, Obama's long form being a fake.
    I thought we already established that you were a miserable Poe.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I'm not trying to argue and it's partially why I don't get caught up in this, but justice is what separates us from the animals, a firm set of rules.
    What rules did we not follow? I gotta hear this.

    Please enlighten us...

    So typical of the Obama-haters, to totally flip-flop on this.

    Fox and Friends are already cuing up their spin on this...

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by megrimlock View Post
    jus·tice/ˈjəstis/Noun
    1. Just behavior or treatment.
    2. The quality of being fair and reasonable.
    3.The administration of the law or authority in maintaining this

    How is this anything but justice?
    The legal and moral concept.
    You know trial by jury, that whole thing.

    But like I said, that doesn't necessarily make this bad.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Does this actually change anything?
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    What rules did we not follow? I gotta hear this.

    Please enlighten us...

    So typical of the Obama-haters, to totally flip-flop on this.


    Fox and Friends are already cuing up their spin on this...
    5 bucks says they criticize his claiming we aren't at war with Islam, Obama being a secret Muslim and all.
    You can't reason somebody out of something they were never reasoned into in the first place.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I'm not trying to argue and it's partially why I don't get caught up in this, but justice is what separates us from the animals, a firm set of rules.

    I'm not necessarily saying that this isn't a good thing, but it certainly isn't justice.
    When you say justice, do you mean due process?
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by gekaap View Post
    Haha, somehow I doubt it could be painted quite like that.
    The President ordered the mission.

    According to reports, Bin Ladin resisted and was shot in the head. DNA was matched to his sister.

    I'm trying to understand how Harry can say this was not 'justice'-- as if only justice happens in a court room... that's moronic. (it's an anti-Obama flip-flop, if you ask me...)

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Bush calls bin laden death "momentous achievement"

    Don't forget, credit has to go to Pres. Bush too!
    Why? He used 9/11. He chose to not let a good crisis go to waste, but rather used it to support his foray into Iraq. He never seriously chased Bin Laden and therefore gets zero credit.

    YouTube - Bush: Truly not concerned about bin Laden (short version)

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    When you say justice, do you mean due process?
    He means Obama had something to do with it, so he can't be happy about it and must try to put some type of negative spin on it.

    Don't worry, Fox News will be spinning a mile-a-minute come daylight.

    Trump is already demanding the long form death certificate.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    hazlnut, what on earth does any of this have to do with "Fox & Friends" or even Fox News in the slightest? How about sticking to the topic. You were doing an amazing job up until this post.
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