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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    I was clearly talking about bush dude.
    Really, in a thread about UBL, you've got to bash Bush, dude?
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    I said it once and I'll say it again. Obama deserves no congrats for this...he didn't do anything but was briefed on intel and gave the go ahead. I don't credit to bush for capturing saddam, he didn't do anything. Obama is nothing more than the president at the time we got him. It's foolish to think he really had anything to do with the kill. He was 8000 miles away.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    I said it once and I'll say it again. Obama deserves no congrats for this...he didn't do anything but was briefed on intel and gave the go ahead. I don't credit to bush for capturing saddam, he didn't do anything. Obama is nothing more than the president at the time we got him. It's foolish to think he really had anything to do with the kill. He was 8000 miles away.
    giving the go ahead is what Presidents do, or don't do. Unless you expected him to be pulling the trigger, it's a little crazy to bash him. He made a decision, and for a change, it was the right one. He doesn't deserve ALL the credit, but he deserves some of it.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    giving the go ahead is what Presidents do, or don't do. Unless you expected him to be pulling the trigger, it's a little crazy to bash him. He made a decision, and for a change, it was the right one. He doesn't deserve ALL the credit, but he deserves some of it.
    He should have been like the president in Independence Day, flying in on a blaze of glory, leading the charge. Duh!
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    And I think this point needs to be made...

    On Celebrity Apprentice -- Donald Trump presided over NeNe and Star Jones' cat fight and then fired Hope Dworaczyk.

    Meanwhile, President Obama ordered the covert mission that resulted in taking out Osama Bin Laden.

    Kinda puts things in perspective....

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Really, in a thread about UBL, you've got to bash Bush, dude?
    I wasn't bashing him was i?
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    And I think this point needs to be made...

    On Celebrity Apprentice -- Donald Trump presided over NeNe and Star Jones' cat fight and then fired Hope Dworaczyk.

    Meanwhile, President Obama ordered the covert mission that resulted in taking out Osama Bin Laden.

    Kinda puts things in perspective....
    hmmm, what was Pres. Obama doing on 9/11...2001?

    perspective much?
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    I wasn't bashing him was i?
    why, yes...you were.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    He should have been like the president in Independence Day, flying in on a blaze of glory, leading the charge. Duh!
    Yes, if those pilots could learn how to fly an F/A-18 Hornet in the span of an hour, then so can Obama!
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    why, yes...you were.
    Okay let's read over what i wrote, shall we?

    "I did hate that old man, but he did some good thing's in his time too". That was an acknowledgement of his merits despite my disapproval of his politics. That's called expressing an opinion. NOT bashing.
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