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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    If Clinton hadn't said no to the countries that twice wanted to hand us Bin Laden we might never have had a 9/11 to contend with. The difference between my statement and yours is that mine is fact and yours is some off-the-wall, irrelevant opinion of Bush's actions based on stupid supposition and a youtube video.
    Ah...yes....the blame Clinton card, although 911 occurred well into Bush's watch.....
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Bush II had Bin Laden in his sights at Tora Bora but messed it up. He didn't put troops on the ground and instead relied on mercenary Afghani warlords for backup. He could have had Bin Laden at the outset. Then he forgot about Bin Laden and started a war in Iraq. What's there to dispute?

    You can read what happened that time on 60 minutes: Elite Officer Recalls Bin Laden Hunt - 60 Minutes - CBS News

    "We want to come in on the back door," Fury explains. "The original plan that we sent up through our higher headquarters, Delta Force wants to come in over the mountain with oxygen, coming from the Pakistan side, over the mountains and come in and get a drop on bin Laden from behind."

    But they didn't take that route, because Fury says they didn't get approval from a higher level. "Whether that was Central Command all the way up to the president of the United States, I'm not sure," he says.

    The next option that Delta wanted to employ was to drop hundreds of landmines in the mountain passes that led to Pakistan, which was bin Laden’s escape route.

    "First guy blows his leg off, everybody else stops. That allows aircraft overhead to find them. They see all these heat sources out there. Okay, there a big large group of Al Qaeda moving south. They can engage that," Fury explains.

    But they didn't do that either, because Fury says that plan was also disapproved. He says he has "no idea" why.

    "How often does Delta come up with a tactical plan that's disapproved by higher headquarters?" Pelley asks.

    "In my experience, in my five years at Delta, never before," Fury says.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    I just have to say if our intelligence listened to this man we would have had him years ago!









    (Joke obviously).

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    What makes you think that he did? YouTube - Bush: Truly not concerned about bin Laden (short version)

    If GWB had cared about finding Bin Laden, he wouldn't have used 911 to justify the invasion of a country that had ZERO to do with it.
    wow, 2+2=5.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    If you go back and trace the thread....you would see that I wasn't the one who brough Bush up...like you....I was responding to what others wrote. I guess its ok for you to respond but not others? Thanks for playing!

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Ah...yes....the blame Clinton card, although 911 occurred well into Bush's watch.....
    Ah, the Wonderful World of Disney.

    The economy and wars happening 2+ years into Obama's Presidency....BUSH'S FAULT. Something occuring 9 months into Bush's term in office....BUSH'S FAULT.

    The flat out blaming of 9/11 on Clinton is idiotically narrow focused, but the hypocrisy of your normally narrow focused self when it comes to anything happening under Obama's watch that you can blame on Bush suddenly becoming far more of a wide view when it comes to things happening while Bush was in office is ironic. God forbid there be consistency in your views.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Oh please.....you guys are so desperate to try to rehabilitate GWB that you cannot stomach the idea that Obama did in two years what Bush couldn't accomplish in 8. If Bush hadn't decided to use 911 to justify an invasion of Iraq, Bin Laden could have been captured years ago.
    Do you really believe this crap? I'm all about giving President Obama the credit for making the decision to go....Clinton and Carter probably wouldn't have....but come on....that crap is just crybaby partisan nonsense. President Obama didn't DO it.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Ah...yes....the blame Clinton card, although 911 occurred well into Bush's watch.....
    So, you don't like it when a previous President is blamed for something that happens on a later President's watch?

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Yes, yes, yes. Keep up this sentiment as such idiocy will ensure another thrashing in 2012.

    You know nothing of Bush's "efforts" in pursuing bin Laden. Who are you? Nobody. You're half the problem.

    Obama was sat down and explained how the world really is after he got elected, and he abandoned the spineless, naive childishness his supporters cling to. He had to. I'd bet what he learned scared the absolute hell out of him.
    The righties are crying already. That didn't take long. Spin all you want, buddy. The fact of the matter is Obama gets the credit. Yes, the intelligence community and the military made this operation successful; but you cannot deny that this is huge for Obama. I say this virtually guarantees Obama's victory in 2012. He only needs one campaign commercial: Osama Bin Laden is Dead - I'm Barack Obama, and I approve this message.


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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Of course Obama is going to take all the credit. He's also going to spin out some BS yarn about why action couldn't be taken in August, when the report of bin Laden's location allegedly came in. Boy, this will take the public's attention off their permanent unemployment, their soaring fuel prices and Donald Trump, won't it?

    Thing is, all those problems will still be there, two days from now, when people stop talking about bin Laden and Obama's incredible heroism.
    Dumbest post of this thread so far. They got the tip in August. It took them this long because they had to A) Verify and re-verify that he was actually there, and B) train and re-train for the mission. You don't get a tip and then fly in there with no plan. Take off your partisan hat and think for a minute. You're crying is pathetic. As much as it hurts your little ego, you have to admit that Obama got the ****ing job done. Be happy about it.

    This ends the conservative argument that liberals are weak when it comes to national security. Whenever a con brings up that tired old criticism, all one has to do is say, "Osama Bin Laden is dead".


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