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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    In my uninformed and speculative opinion, this doesn't matter all that much in the big scheme of things.
    A good short term moral boost for people here, but it's likely that he wasn't calling the shots in the local area's of operation.
    You are right. In fact I bet it will get worse for a few weeks because of this.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by NoMercy View Post
    You know what is most exciting about this? The underlying strategic tones of his death.

    I am an Intelligence Analyst in the US Army. So that means I'm pretty well trained and INFORMED on strategic planning and seeing things beyond face value.

    Lets look at this deeper. This should make everyone happy. Does anyone here really believe it is remotely possible that this old, withered up man has hid from the most powerful surveillance and monitoring on the face of the planet? Do you really believe that everyone in the terrorist organization of Taliban is so loyal that they would never rat each other out for a little change? I call BS. I KNOW BS.

    It is nearly impossible to hide from anyone these days. The average citizen with internet access and a cell phone can track just about anyone they want. Its scary how easy it is. So if you believe that we haven't known where he has been for a LONG time, then I really don't know how to help you.

    The importance of this whole rant is that we have left him in place for a reason. He was a strategically placed pawn that stayed on the board almost to the end of the game. People believe that if you take out leaders in a military or military organization that it crumbles. Not so. Look at the Taliban as a business and Bin Laden as the CEO if you will. If the CEO of Dell Computers dies tomorrow will all Dell computers stop getting sold and functioning properly? Not at all. There are many people that take up the slack and actually make things happen. Its the same with a terrorist organization. Or any military for that matter. Taking out Bin Laden prematurely would do nothing but inspire hate and a sense of martydom. The rest of the puzzle has to be set in place correctly. So was the bomb that killed Bin Laden a lucky fluke? NO! We knew what we were doing. So that means that the pieces are lining up. The end is nigh.

    I encourage everyone to look deeper at what you see on the news. The government does not tell you everything. And its nessecary that they don't. But that doesn't keep you from digging a little bit. Don't let the trees block your view of the forest.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by idk View Post
    The conspiracy thread is elsewhere, Dr. Analyst. The best thing about a puppet enemy figurehead is that you can eliminate them easily and declare victory. Look what happened to Saddam. The fact that Osama was "left in place" disproves the puppet figurehead theory.
    Saddam was the head of a country. Bin Laden was the head of an organization that has more splinters than wood. His "theory" is dead on. Westerners tend to believe in the patriarchal organization. One head controls everything. The Middle East and more specifically Muslims and Jews believe in tribal structures whereby one figure leads ideologically but many others enforce his teachings. Just look at the Bible. It's riddled with prophets and religious men circulating around the same time. Muslim expansion out of the Middle East worked this way. Many heads, one body. We have the idea that if we kill enough heads sooner or later the body will fall, they're fully aware that we'll have to kill all of them in order for the idea to die.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Bush calls bin laden death "momentous achievement"

    Don't forget, credit has to go to Pres. Bush too!
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Saddam was the head of a country. Bin Laden was the head of an organization that has more splinters than wood. His "theory" is dead on. Westerners tend to believe in the patriarchal organization. One head controls everything. The Middle East and more specifically Muslims and Jews believe in tribal structures whereby one figure leads ideologically but many others enforce his teachings. Just look at the Bible. It's riddled with prophets and religious men circulating around the same time. Muslim expansion out of the Middle East worked this way. Many heads, one body. We have the idea that if we kill enough heads sooner or later the body will fall, they're fully aware that we'll have to kill all of them in order for the idea to die.
    So... you're saying that Osama was an American puppet?

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Technically, that isn't "justice" in the traditional, American sense.
    Hell Yes it is!!

    It's traditional American justice. It's divine justice. It's poetic justice.

    The only thing that would make this better is if President Obama had the phone number of the mansion and called 20 seconds before the Seal Team landed.

    "They have no intention of bringing you in alive."



    This is all-American Clint Eastwood justice baby!!!

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Hell Yes it is!!

    It's traditional American justice. It's divine justice. It's poetic justice.

    The only thing that would make this better is if President Obama had the phone number of the mansion and called 20 seconds before the Seal Team landed.

    "They have no intention of bringing you in alive."



    This is all-American Clint Eastwood justice baby!!!
    No traditional American justice is done before a court of law.
    Just saying.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Technically, that isn't "justice" in the traditional, American sense.
    You're right. This isn't "justice" in the sense that we normally accept, that being judgment under the law. But he did get what he had coming to him.
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    We're dealing with master Satanists here. The fact that there's no evidence proves that it's true.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Normally a major historical figure dies and it causes an outpouring of sorrow. Tonight a man is dead, children made fatherless, and there is singing and dancing in the streets. Sometimes I wonder what God was thinking when he tipped off Noah. An omniscient being should have known well enough not to expect anything better from us.
    Really?

    I consider myself a reasonably level-headed person. I'm about the farthest thing away from nationalistic there is.

    Yet when I heard this news, I ran into the other room, grabbed my girlfriend, threw on some Ink Spots and danced with her. This isn't about a single man. This is about a small, bright light in a time of darkness. This is about giving people just a tiny bit of faith that their government and their armed forces can serve justice, even in these dark times. This is a symbol that our country can accomplish what we set out to do and follow through on our promise that we would find this son of a bitch and make him pay for what he did.
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