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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Guess Whovian's daughter's professor is Alex Jones.
    God that what I thought as well when I READ that.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by oldreliable67 View Post
    Attempts to spin this into a partisan issue by both sides of the aisle are reprehensible - though not entirely unexpected.

    Obama's administration is to be congratulated for the flawless execution of this operation. However, without the tough decisions taken by President Bush and his national security team, including but not limited to the usage of enhanced interrogation techniques, we would most likely not have found and killed bin Laden. We would still be looking. It is the continuity of policies in that has brought success, not the misguided effort of the last two years by the left to disavow them.
    Oh please....if Bush/Cheney use of torture had been effective at all, Bin Laden would have been captured years ago.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Ok, I'm convinced it's the real deal, but I have another problem... and it's the Americans celebrating in the streets. The coverage does not look that much different from when Palestinians or our other Middle Eastern enemies celebrate American deaths in their own streets. Just pointing out an interesting similarity.

    Also, I tend to agree that this won't matter too much. The Al Qaeda leadership has many heads and Osama was not a prominent figure in recent times. I do think Al Qaeda has been severely damaged over the past 10 years, but it's still an active force.

    My next concern is how the media continues to talk about this issue. Whether or not we want to face it, we are in a position that could really aggravate radicals in the Middle East. Are we going to play tit for tat and brandish Bin Laden's death as much as possible, or are we going to be sensible toward the safety of our troops and keep the reports to the cold hard facts?

    I have always found it distasteful when the media and White House broadcasted the pictures of dead enemies, like when Saddam's son was killed. It's really just not necessary.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    Yes its fake already confirmed by the white house that they have the real one. Fox News says they are debating weather or not to release the thing in the first place.
    Thanks, I deleted my post since is was already brought up on page 11 or 12. sorry for the double post
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Clinton...like GWB did little if anything to go after Bin Ladan....you are absolutely correct. But let's not play games and try to say that anything Bush did facilitated killing Bin Laden. Bush's inital response was appropriate, however, Bush, like most of his career was simply putty in the hands of Cheney and Rumsfield and he lost sight of our goals and became pre-occupied on the wrong course of action.
    If you think GWB did nothing to find Bin Laden....your grip on reality is tenuous at best.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    It was a side discussion that started because of the news... in her Earth Science class. If it was poly sci, I'd be concerned.

    I had a die hard communist prof once. Interesting guy actually Very passionate though.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I had a die hard communist prof once. Interesting guy actually Very passionate though.
    Did he teach poli sci?
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Did he teach poli sci?

    Nah, he taught history at an art school, Pratt Institute.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    If you think GWB did nothing to find Bin Laden....your grip on reality is tenuous at best.
    What makes you think that he did? YouTube - Bush: Truly not concerned about bin Laden (short version)

    If GWB had cared about finding Bin Laden, he wouldn't have used 911 to justify the invasion of a country that had ZERO to do with it.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    What makes you think that he did? YouTube - Bush: Truly not concerned about bin Laden (short version)

    If GWB had cared about finding Bin Laden, he wouldn't have used 911 to justify the invasion of a country that had ZERO to do with it.
    What a dishonest way to make an argument...Why am I not surprised?

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