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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I'd be interested in the opinion poll jumps for Obama....and then the results when it comes to specific issues.
    polls jumped like a mofo in the weeks after 9/11. I assume they will also do so here, but for the numbers to hold the Administration needs to get a hold on the economy.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    polls jumped like a mofo in the weeks after 9/11. I assume they will also do so here, but for the numbers to hold the Administration needs to get a hold on the economy.
    Well, I was thinking a 10-15 point boost, at least momentarily. Then if polling were to take place on specific issues, I would expect to see a large degree of prior consistency: sketchy views about Afghanistan and Iraq wars, low opinion of the economic handling, etc etc.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    One of my daughters professors swears he has documented proof that Bin Laden was found dead in 2002, frozen, and held by the CIA.

    Needless to say, as today was her last day of class, my daughter told her professor exactly what she thought of his comments.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    One of my daughters professors swears he has documented proof that Bin Laden was found dead in 2002, frozen, and held by the CIA.

    Needless to say, as today was her last day of class, my daughter told her professor exactly what she thought of his comments.

    I hope you are not paying for that class.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I hope you are not paying for that class.
    Seconded. Wonder what class it was.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Americans cheer at the death of Osama Bin Laden






    I'm with the people in the video glad this man is dead.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    I think the fact that I (and other conservatives) have lauded Obama for his roll in this military action would speak in direct opposition to the idea that we're all trying to steal his sunshine. All I've been saying (won't speak for anybody else) is that Obama wasn't the only CIC who had a hand in this. Clinton played his part and so did Bush II.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I hope you are not paying for that class.
    Pell Grants.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Seconded. Wonder what class it was.
    It was a side discussion that started because of the news... in her Earth Science class. If it was poly sci, I'd be concerned.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    It was a side discussion that started because of the news... in her Earth Science class. If it was poly sci, I'd be concerned.
    Thank God for that **** lol.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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