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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    go to iTune radio, tune to 770Wabc, 880cbs, 1010wins, 660 the fan, 710wor, and listen for yourself. Many family members are calling in and stating what I feel.


    no they are not unique, Neither is my aunts or my friends who I have been in contact with.


    elation, and rejoicing, are far to strong. I am happy that mothervucker is dead, but closure? "rejoicing" "elation"? hardley, these folks are still dead.... America, **** yeah!


    But lets put it in perspective.
    Both feelings are valid.
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    1999 - Not that it would've helped all that much but Bill DID launch a cruise missile.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    You have to rely on word of mouth from people we can't really trust. I get why it took so long to get him...I wish it hadn't..but I get it.
    Which is how we got into Iraq...
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    go to iTune radio, tune to 770Wabc, 880cbs, 1010wins, 660 the fan, 710wor, and listen for yourself. Many family members are calling in and stating what I feel.


    no they are not unique, Neither is my aunts or my friends who I have been in contact with.


    elation, and rejoicing, are far to strong. I am happy that mothervucker is dead, but closure? "rejoicing" "elation"? hardley, these folks are still dead.... America, **** yeah!


    But lets put it in perspective.
    I kind of agree with you. I was much more excited last night, but we're still in Afghanistan and people are still going to die. At the same time, this doesn't bring back the people who died on 9/11 or all the members of the military who have already died in the conflict. It's sort of a strange feeling to the see the symbol of it all die while remembering everything he created.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    No i was asking, i didn't think that, but i was hoping you could also refute that you hate the West religiously.



    I also acknowledge our role in this, only the regimes where propped up to maintain regional stability, to maintain the fight against terrorism and Iran, NOT to kill and maim innocent civilians. We are in Libya making amends and being falsely accused of nefarious agenda's to keep the vile anti-West rhetoric alive by any means.

    It really is boring. That brings me back to my point. Damned if we leave you to the slaughter, damned if we dont. Its called anti-Western hypocrisy.
    No, Obama got us into Libya to help al qeada.

    But the Mayor just LOVE the way the Lefties are complaining whenever a bomb or missile comes somewhat close to Ghadaffy.

    It certainly reminds the Mayor of the scene in the Patriot where Cornwallis is whining about Gibson's nasssssty habit of shooting officers first.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

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    Both feelings are valid.

    As one who has seen horrible things happen to bad and good people in my life, I can tell you the "elation" won't last. It's good to have the emotional release, but it will rebound in a few days. yes, both feelings are valid, however, only one is being propped up by mainstream media, and that pisses me off a bit.


    I'm happy the ****er is dead, They should have buried his ass in a pig carcuss facing south at the foot of the "freedom tower", I am also contemplative as to the meaning of this death, and what it means in the bigger picture of my loss. Elation, rejoicing, to me is not accurate.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Which is how we got into Iraq...
    I see your point. I'm not validating Iraq...though I'm glad Saddam and his sons are gone. Wish Bush I or Clinton would have done it, but I'm glad it was done. I don't think we ever should have occupied the country to do it, nor do I think we should have used some psuedo-pretense to get over there.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Memory is selective. Nobody took Osama seriously until the 9/11 attacks. Then, many simply discard the other 7 attacks over 7 years that had been facilitated by Osama under Clinton's watch, but had been left unanswered. The FBI and CIA weren't communicating with one another at the end of Clinton's presidency and beginning of Bush's, so valuable intelligence that might have tipped us off to 9/11 wasn't put together in time to do anything (be it capturing Osama or finding the hijackers). Also, because of the intelligence disconnect, not a lot of information was available on Osama's travel, general where-abouts, circle of trusted subordinates, etc. so it would have been near impossible to run an offensive on the guy.

    But what the hell, let's blame one guy. It's completely logical, right?
    No.

    If it was, the Left couldn't be using it.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    No.

    If it was, the Left couldn't be using it.
    You've already given us the proof that "The Left" is pretty much a catch-all term for anyone you disagree with.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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