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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Scanner View Post
    So the question still remains. Where are the pictures (or better yet video) of the body ? Wouldn't it have been simple for someone to shoot a 2 minute video of Bin Laden dead, to confirm it ? Any got any video ? Got any photos ? Got anything ?

    If not ? Why not ? Keeping in mind that a Bin Laden death represents a major political plus for the Obama administration. Also keeping in mind that the only original spokesman of this so far are within the US military ? (of which Obama is Commander in Chief)
    I sincerely hope you aren't going down the conspiracy theory route with this. Do you realize how many people would have to be lying about this in order for it to be some kind of a hoax?

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Scanner View Post
    So the question still remains. Where are the pictures (or better yet video) of the body ? Wouldn't it have been simple for someone to shoot a 2 minute video of Bin Laden dead, to confirm it ? Any got any video ? Got any photos ? Got anything ?

    If not ? Why not ? Keeping in mind that a Bin Laden death represents a major political plus for the Obama administration. Also keeping in mind that the only original spokesman of this so far are within the US military ? (of which Obama is Commander in Chief)
    First of all, it hasn't even been 24 hours. Maybe you should wait before starting the conspiracy theories. Second of all, they at least have a video of the compound where he was killed - no bodies yet though.

    BBC News - Inside the compound where Bin Laden was found

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    So the question still remains. Where are the pictures (or better yet video) of the body ? Wouldn't it have been simple for someone to shoot a 2 minute video of Bin Laden dead, to confirm it ? Any got any video ? Got any photos ? Got anything ?

    If not ? Why not ? Keeping in mind that a Bin Laden death represents a major political plus for the Obama administration. Also keeping in mind that the only original spokesman of this so far are within the US military ? (of which Obama is Commander in Chief)
    This guy didn't get enough long form the first time.

    Don't worry, buddy, it's on the way.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    I use wiki a lot of the time because it's a good resource (if not a quality academic/scholarly resource). However it doesn't take an expert to realize that we have new info coming out on what happened all the time, so a clearer picture of what happened will emerge at time goes on. Nevertheless:

    Death of Osama bin Laden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    President Obama met with his security advisors on March 14, 2011, in the first of five security meetings over six weeks. On April 29, at 8:20 a.m., Obama convened with Thomas Donilon, John O. Brennan, and other security advisers in the Diplomatic Room, where he authorized a raid of the Abbottabad compound. The government of Pakistan was not informed of this decision.[10]
    The SEALs stormed the compound at approximately 1 a.m. local time (20:00, May 1 (UTC))[18] and engaged bin Laden and his men in a firefight.[19] The raid lasted about 40 minutes. Three other male adults present at the compound were also reportedly killed in the operation, including an adult son of bin Laden.[20] Osama bin Laden was shot in the head.[21] The helicopter they used to breach the mansion walls suffered a mechanical breakdown and could not fly the soldiers out. The SEALs burned the helicopter to secure intelligence[11] and carried out bin Laden's body on foot.[22]
    According to a U.S. official on May 2, bin Laden's body was handled in accordance with Islamic practice and tradition,[29] and was buried at sea soon after death, in accordance with Islamic tradition.[30][31][32]
    If this is true, I'm glad that Americans can stay true to their values and afford some dignity to even our mortal enemies. However I could also go the conspiracy theory route and say that if I were the government I would've kept the body 1) to confirm that it was actually him and 2) it just seems a pity that we would kill this mofo and then just dump his body into the sea; I would've kept the body like, just because.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    For those who are interested, the transcript from the background press briefing that was given relatively soon after President Obama's speech can be found at:

    Press Briefing by Senior Administration Officials on the Killing of Osama bin Laden | The White House

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Congratulations to the Navy Seals, the intelligence community and President Obama who made this a high priority.
    Last edited by pbrauer; 05-02-11 at 11:59 AM.


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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    ironically, it was just 8 years ago to the day that president declared "mission accomplished" in iraq, last night president obama showed us how a serious commander in chief is supposed to act.

    Congratulations to the navy seals, the intelligence community and president obama who made this a high priority.
    must..... Bash.... Bush....

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Ironically, it was just 8 years ago to the day that President declared "Mission Accomplished" in Iraq, last night President Obama showed us how a serious Commander in Chief is supposed to act.
    Seriously?


    Congratulations to the Navy Seals, the intelligence community and President Obama who made this a high priority.

    Seriously?
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Tess - I think you may be on to something. The raid was authorized on April 29. Is there anyway DNA confirmation works that fast?
    Your Results: Release, Turn Around, and Time Frame - US Immigration DNA Testing - Mobile DNA Test
    Paternity/Maternity DNA Test results are typically available two-business days from the date all of the samples are received at the lab. Sibling DNA Testing or Grandparent DNA Testing is typicall turn around in 3 - 5 business days.
    Depending on how much of that time is waiting in queue for previous samples to be processed, it seems so.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Scanner View Post
    So the question still remains. Where are the pictures (or better yet video) of the body ? Wouldn't it have been simple for someone to shoot a 2 minute video of Bin Laden dead, to confirm it ? Anybody got any video ? Got any photos ? Got anything ?

    If not ? Why not ? Keeping in mind that a Bin Laden death represents a major political plus for the Obama administration. Also keeping in mind that the only original spokesman of this so far are within the US military ? (of which Obama is Commander in Chief)
    Iirc, some people just got in trouble for taking trophy photos in the past couple of months.

    I am not surprised that there aren't photos out yet.

    If a couple of months go by, then I would find the lack of photo evidence to be significant.
    I may be wrong.

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