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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It does jack ****.

    This is just to appease all those Americans and Westerners to try and fool them into believing they are getting anywhere.
    You can't cut off the head of a freaking ideology. It does not rest in ONE leader and Bin Laden would have no doubt prepared for his death and assigned his deputies with instruction.

    What is even more sad and slightly amusing is no doubt Americans and Westerners are lapping this up like fools thinking they just gave a fatal blow to a ideology.
    It brings a sense of closure to thousands of people who were directly affected by 9/11. That might be "jack ****" to you, but it means something to them. Does lethal injection of a guy who murders your kid really do anything? Does it stop murder? No. Does it bring your kid back? No. Yet it does for many people bring a sense of closure and a sense of finality to the whole situation...and I imagine for many of the people directly affected through the loss or injury of a loved one, or who were the first responders, that this gives a very similar feeling as those situations do.

    That might mean "jack ****" to you, but it likely means a hell of a lot to many of them. Will this stop extremism? No. There will still be people on all ends of extremism...from those who physically carry out attacks to those on the lighter end who proclaim the need for retribution killings in America but don't make a peep when the situation occurs in reverse. And Al Qaeda is likely to still continue on as it has been. But because it doesn't change anything operational doesn't mean it doesn't do jack ****.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    With respect to the purported photos circulating on the web, CNN reported, "No decision has yet been made on whether to release the photographs and if so, when and how."

    More importantly, CNN added, "A senior national security official told CNN that officials had multiple confirmations that the body was bin Laden's, saying they had the 'ability to run images of the body and the face.'"

    Operation was designed to kill bin Laden, source says - CNN.com

    IMO, there is virtually no chance that President Obama would have spoken before the U.S. last night if the U.S. didn't have extremely strong evidence that Bin Laden was killed in the raid. Too much would have been at stake.
    I agree... But as with the birth certificate, we're going to need to see the official confirmation, death photos etc.. I WANT to see them myself!


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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    A month before the election - maybe. This far out, I don't think so. As happy as most of us are that we finally got bin Laden, him being dead doesn't fix the economy, the spending problem our government has, the devaluing of the dollar, the debt or the albatross that Obamacare is. This will be long forgotten come a year and a half from now.
    After invading Iraq and Afghanistan, none of it fixed the economy, the spending problem our government had, the devaluing of the dollar, the debt, or the albatross that health care has become in our country. But it still worked for Bush.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I like how conspiracy theorists think that secret societies and governments have the resources to pull massive hoaxes, but can't use photoshop as well as the people who make Burger King commercials.
    HAHAHA i just got pwned.

    Dude, i was onto something there. I DID prove it was a hoax at least, even if somebody beat me to it.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by idk View Post
    The conspiracy thread is elsewhere, Dr. Analyst. The best thing about a puppet enemy figurehead is that you can eliminate them easily and declare victory. Look what happened to Saddam. The fact that Osama was "left in place" disproves the puppet figurehead theory.
    Really? Your going to tell me how military strategy works? I've devoted years of my life to be trained in this field. Hundreds of hours of study and preparation. And you know more about it than me? Well I need a heart surgeon for my grandma. Do you also know how to do a bypass surgery?

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Shall you go after Harry for saying the same basic thing Bush was saying?



    Bush, and Obama, shouldn't have been overly concerned about Osama from a militaristic or tactical perspective. The man's ability to actually significantly influence things directly has been utterly and completely neutered. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be concerned from a closure stand point of getting him...and I do believe both were. But from a stand point of "concerned" regarding getting him for our safety or because he's dangerous...no, Bush was right and I think Obama likely felt his sentiments. Osama was not someone to be "concerned" about in that way any longer.

    No surprise though that you'll take something and attempt to twist its context to suit your partisan needs during a time like this though. Disney never does let a good situation go to waste for partisan slams. It's what hyperpartisans do.
    Sorry Zyph....by I for one am not willing to forget that GWB manipulated 911 to pursue a decade old Cheney/Rumsfield nation building agenda...and in the process took his focus off of those who actually attacked us on 911 and spent thousands of US military lives in the process.
    I thank God that we have a President that put the focus back where it belonged in the first place.....mission accomplished.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sorry Zyph....by I for one am not willing to forget that GWB manipulated 911 to pursue a decade old Cheney/Rumsfield nation building agenda...and in the process took his focus off of those who actually attacked us on 911 and spent thousands of US military lives in the process.
    I thank God that we have a President that put the focus back where it belonged in the first place.....mission accomplished.
    DD...are you ****in serious??

    1) I don't see how ANYONE benefits from a "nation-building agenda"
    2) Birthers have no evidence to back up their positions, yet you've been calling them out as racist. Your position on Bush and 9/11 is equally without merit.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It does jack ****.

    This is just to appease all those Americans and Westerners to try and fool them into believing they are getting anywhere.
    You can't cut off the head of a freaking ideology. It does not rest in ONE leader and Bin Laden would have no doubt prepared for his death and assigned his deputies with instruction.

    What is even more sad and slightly amusing is no doubt Americans and Westerners are lapping this up like fools thinking they just gave a fatal blow to a ideology.
    I find your derision disgusting.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by NoMercy View Post
    Really? Your going to tell me how military strategy works? I've devoted years of my life to be trained in this field. Hundreds of hours of study and preparation. And you know more about it than me? Well I need a heart surgeon for my grandma. Do you also know how to do a bypass surgery?
    Hey Noob, you can't come here to DP, claim qualifications and experiences that, frankly, we have no way of verifying and then expect instant respect. This has nothing to do with disrespecting the military, we have many, many respected members here who are serving members of the military and many others show these well-known, time-served members all the respect they deserve and have earned. If you want to have your opinions respected, act like a respectable person, debate without resorting to sarcasm and insult and spend some time here getting to know and getting known by the other members.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It does jack ****.

    This is just to appease all those Americans and Westerners to try and fool them into believing they are getting anywhere.
    You can't cut off the head of a freaking ideology. It does not rest in ONE leader and Bin Laden would have no doubt prepared for his death and assigned his deputies with instruction.

    What is even more sad and slightly amusing is no doubt Americans and Westerners are lapping this up like fools thinking they just gave a fatal blow to a ideology.
    I don't think anyone is kidding themselves into thinking that it is the death of an ideology. As others have said, I think it brings a sense of peace and closure to the families of the victims of 9/11. Frankly, this should have been done long ago, and it's sad that people had to wait 10 years for this to happen. I'm not pointing fingers at Bush for this either. I think that Obama had a tactical advantage and took it. That being said, please don't buy into the poorly constructed stereotypes of Americans and think that they are foolishly celebrating an end to terrorism or whatever, that clearly isn't the case.

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