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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Hey here's something I never considered.

    We can now make the last 10 years into a Hollywood Blockbuster.
    That would be lord of the rings 1 + 2 + 3 combined
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    As a New Yorker. Good riddance. Kudos to President Obama for closing the chapter on the face of 9/11.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Enhanced interrogations helped to accomplish this mission.
    Considering the length of time that has passed, since EI has taken place, the validity and significance of that Intel will have been so outdated its relevance would only be minimal. So, i would say you failed in your attempt at justifying its widespread use.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Considering the length of time that has passed, since EI has taken place, the validity and significance of that Intel will have been so outdated its relevance would only be minimal. So, i would say you failed in your attempt at justifying its widespread use.

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    Not to mention at best bin Laden had been in the villa since October 2010 and Obama took office and banned torture in 2009. That of course does not prevent the Pakistanis or others to use torture and tell the US about the results, but considering the Pakistanis were only told after the fact.. then well.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Not to mention at best bin Laden had been in the villa since October 2010 and Obama took office and banned torture in 2009. That of course does not prevent the Pakistanis or others to use torture and tell the US about the results, but considering the Pakistanis were only told after the fact.. then well.
    We don't know the specifics, what you're saying is pure speculation, it took years and years to get to this point.

    It did not happen JUST because of Obama, and this whole operation didn't just start under him.

    I'll tell you one thing though, I would have kept the ISI at arms length.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    We don't know the specifics, what you're saying is pure speculation, it took years and years to get to this point.

    It did not happen JUST because of Obama, and this whole operation didn't just start under him.

    I'll tell you one thing though, I would have kept the ISI at arms length.
    No we dont know the specifics but bits have been leaked including the fact that they know was at the villa since October 2010. Now since Obama banned the use of torutre by US forces, and the ISI was kept at arms length, then chances of the information being gotten via torture are slim but not outside the realm of possibility (nothing is). Point is that, the claim that torture was a key factor in finding and killing him, is borderline fantasy speculation rather than even remotely factual.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Pakistan Taliban says it will launch retaliatory attacks. More soon...
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Bin Laden raid was "tweeted".

    BBC News - Bin Laden raid was revealed on Twitter

    An IT consultant, living in Abbottabad, unintentionally tweeted details of the US-led operation as it happened.

    Sohaib Athar wrote that a helicopter was hovering overhead shortly before the assault began and said that it might not be a Pakistani aircraft.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    My response to this in the other thread before it was locked was that Bush's mistakes about taking his eye off the ball weren't the place in that thread. President Bush started this by first going after him and President Obama ended it. It doesn't matter what, you, me, or anyone else thinks about how Bush conducted the war. President Obama owned it to Bush not only as the former president, but as man to man. Bush had the right to hear from Obama that we got the bastard first. Bush had the right to know what he started Obama helped finish tonight.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    No we dont know the specifics but bits have been leaked including the fact that they know was at the villa since October 2010. Now since Obama banned the use of torutre by US forces, and the ISI was kept at arms length, then chances of the information being gotten via torture are slim but not outside the realm of possibility (nothing is). Point is that, the claim that torture was a key factor in finding and killing him, is borderline fantasy speculation rather than even remotely factual.
    They got the info from KSM years ago, but obviously it took time to use it.
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