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Osama Bin Laden is dead

I did hate that old man, but he did some good thing's in his time too.
 
kaya'08 said:
Why is everybody congratulating Bush? Was the lead established under his administration?
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Yes it was.

Besides, would we have gone into that part of the world if Obama or Gore were president on 9/11, or would we have done this with the UN?

Hey, I give Obama a lot of credit for taking the baton from Bush and keeping the game going. I know libbos are upset with Obama over his crawfishing on the war on terror, but I give him his just credit in that regard.

I could have done with fewer "me's" and "I's" during the press conference last night, but I'm glad he had the gonads to give the okay for the special forces to act on the information.
 
kaya'08 said:
I did hate that old man, but he did some good thing's in his time too.
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Which old man was that? And do you recognize how ridiculous it is that I had to ask?
 
I said it once and I'll say it again. Obama deserves no congrats for this...he didn't do anything but was briefed on intel and gave the go ahead. I don't credit to bush for capturing saddam, he didn't do anything. Obama is nothing more than the president at the time we got him. It's foolish to think he really had anything to do with the kill. He was 8000 miles away.
 
dontworrybehappy said:
I said it once and I'll say it again. Obama deserves no congrats for this...he didn't do anything but was briefed on intel and gave the go ahead. I don't credit to bush for capturing saddam, he didn't do anything. Obama is nothing more than the president at the time we got him. It's foolish to think he really had anything to do with the kill. He was 8000 miles away.
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giving the go ahead is what Presidents do, or don't do. Unless you expected him to be pulling the trigger, it's a little crazy to bash him. He made a decision, and for a change, it was the right one. He doesn't deserve ALL the credit, but he deserves some of it.
 
mac said:
giving the go ahead is what Presidents do, or don't do. Unless you expected him to be pulling the trigger, it's a little crazy to bash him. He made a decision, and for a change, it was the right one. He doesn't deserve ALL the credit, but he deserves some of it.
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He should have been like the president in Independence Day, flying in on a blaze of glory, leading the charge. Duh!
 
And I think this point needs to be made...

On Celebrity Apprentice -- Donald Trump presided over NeNe and Star Jones' cat fight and then fired Hope Dworaczyk.

Meanwhile, President Obama ordered the covert mission that resulted in taking out Osama Bin Laden.

Kinda puts things in perspective....
 
hazlnut said:
And I think this point needs to be made...

On Celebrity Apprentice -- Donald Trump presided over NeNe and Star Jones' cat fight and then fired Hope Dworaczyk.

Meanwhile, President Obama ordered the covert mission that resulted in taking out Osama Bin Laden.

Kinda puts things in perspective....
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hmmm, what was Pres. Obama doing on 9/11...2001?

perspective much?
 
tessaesque said:
He should have been like the president in Independence Day, flying in on a blaze of glory, leading the charge. Duh!
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Yes, if those pilots could learn how to fly an F/A-18 Hornet in the span of an hour, then so can Obama!
 
mac said:
why, yes...you were.
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Okay let's read over what i wrote, shall we?

"I did hate that old man, but he did some good thing's in his time too". That was an acknowledgement of his merits despite my disapproval of his politics. That's called expressing an opinion. NOT bashing.
 
mac said:
hmmm, what was Pres. Obama doing on 9/11...2001?
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Reading to a kindergarten class, waiting for Cheney or Rummy to tell him what to do...??

No, that was someone else.

Based on what we know about last nights operation -- IMO -- 9/11 wouldn't have happened if Obama was in office. His team would have been on top of the intel we had.

Under Bush, terrorists were taking flying lessons here in the states... WTF??

Competence, responsibility, and proactive leadership returned to the WH in 2008.
 
hazlnut said:
Reading to a kindergarten class, waiting for Cheney or Rummy to tell him what to do...??

No, that was someone else.

Based on what we know about last nights operation -- IMO -- 9/11 wouldn't have happened if Obama was in office. His team would have been on top of the intel we had.

Under Bush, terrorists were taking flying lessons here in the states... WTF??

Competence, responsibility, and proactive leadership returned to the WH in 2008.
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You don't know any of this hazl.
 
hazlnut said:
Reading to a kindergarten class, waiting for Cheney or Rummy to tell him what to do...??

No, that was someone else.

Based on what we know about last nights operation -- IMO -- 9/11 wouldn't have happened if Obama was in office. His team would have been on top of the intel we had.

Under Bush, terrorists were taking flying lessons here in the states... WTF??

Competence, responsibility, and proactive leadership returned to the WH in 2008.
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Way to dodge the question. What was Pres. Obama doing on 9/11, 2001?

edit: just to clarify, I don't give a **** what Trump was doing last night. If you are using Trump to counterbalance Obama's deeds....you're pretty desperate.
 
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hazlnut said:
Reading to a kindergarten class, waiting for Cheney or Rummy to tell him what to do...??

No, that was someone else.

Based on what we know about last nights operation -- IMO -- 9/11 wouldn't have happened if Obama was in office. His team would have been on top of the intel we had.

Under Bush, terrorists were taking flying lessons here in the states... WTF??

Competence, responsibility, and proactive leadership returned to the WH in 2008.
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Sometimes I think drugs help people relax or feel better. In this case, I think they are too harmful to brain cells.
 
hazlnut said:
Reading to a kindergarten class, waiting for Cheney or Rummy to tell him what to do...??

No, that was someone else.

Based on what we know about last nights operation -- IMO -- 9/11 wouldn't have happened if Obama was in office. His team would have been on top of the intel we had.

Under Bush, terrorists were taking flying lessons here in the states... WTF??

Competence, responsibility, and proactive leadership returned to the WH in 2008.
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Obama would have had the same issues Bush did when he got into office, and far less experience in knowing how to fix it. Our intelligence agencies weren't communicating with one another. Puzzle pieces weren't getting put together. That wouldn't have been different under Obama, and since Obama had virtually NO representative experience or political experience in 2001, it would have been rather difficult for him to get much accomplished in 9 months to revamp the intelligence agencies.
 
tessaesque said:
Obama would have had the same issues Bush did when he got into office, and far less experience in knowing how to fix it. Our intelligence agencies weren't communicating with one another. Puzzle pieces weren't getting put together. That wouldn't have been different under Obama, and since Obama had virtually NO representative experience or political experience in 2001, it would have been rather difficult for him to get much accomplished in 9 months to revamp the intelligence agencies.
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Tess is right. There were structural and bureaucratic deficiencies regarding the intelligence agencies that were a problem regardless of the competence of Bush's vs. Obama's "teams."
 
StillBallin75 said:
Tess - I think you may be on to something. The raid was authorized on April 29. Is there anyway DNA confirmation works that fast?
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Yeah thinking the same thing. Aircraft carrier probably. State of the art equipment on hand to get the body underwater in 24 hrs. Still... Damn details.
 
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