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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliticalMama View Post
    But he didn't so we don't have to think about that. And I believe that every PRESIDENT or potential president thinks of everything in terms of political gain or damage. That's how they all think which is why we are in the mess we are in due to both parties.
    Well, I am just saying, I give him credit, but not the over the top brilliance that his supporters would have you think.....

    I think it was like I said, a no choice decision.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    I heard bin Laden was going to be in a remake of "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea".

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    mertex, would you say that Slate, and some blog may not be the most objective sourcing?

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    Like those are the only sources saying the same thing? Is Rumsfeld lying? Is the NY times lying also? Is there anybody credible other than Faux News?

    It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out, unless you are in denial.

    As Jane Mayer says, "Funny. You would think that if the C.I.A.’s interrogation of high-value detainees was all it took, the U.S. government would have succeeded in locating bin Laden before 2006, which is when the C.I.A.’s custody of so-called “high-value detainees” ended."

    She's absolutely right, which has been the point of the debunking by Marcy Wheeler of this story. And her debunking—particularly her main contention that KSM didn't give up the courier—is confirmed by a New York Times report today.




    Daily Kos: Rumsfeld confirms: Waterboarding did not net intelligence that led to bin*Laden



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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, at this point you are probably right. Those entrenched in what worked, and what didn't are set in their opinions. What gets me is how those that couldn't stand what the Bush administration was doing in terms of the WoT, and Iraq, and Afghanistan, and largely silent now, when Obama is continuing the exact same policies.

    It's all hypocritical.

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    Are you claiming that they are still water boarding? They are not. So how exactly is it all hypocritical?

    Obama Bans Waterboarding Terrorists, But Pentagon Won't Say If It Still Waterboards Military Trainees
    Although waterboarding is now banned as an interrogation technique for terror suspects, the Defense Department will not say whether U.S. soldiers still undergo waterboarding in their training.

    Obama Bans Waterboarding Terrorists, But Pentagon Won't Say If It Still Waterboards Military Trainees | CNSnews.com


    As for a more "credible" source for those in denial, that water boarding was not the big supplier of information that helped capture of Bin Laden:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/04/us...04torture.html



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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Some have to believe it was to justify their support of something as illegal and immoral as torture. Otherwise good people have to rationalize away the problems. Sadly.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Bin Laden died ten years ago. They keep him alive because they need a false flag enemy to maintain the "war on terror". Now US economy can't support them for such an expensive war. To finish it, they need fulfil their last step - war on Iran. So they push out such a soap drama, it is a "provocative action", sychronized with "Quran burning" in Florida and "veil ban" law passed in French, to justify a coming "dirty bomb attack" which will lead to war on Iran like what 911 leading to war on Afghanistan and Iraq.

    This is an cheating operation done by the Feds.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Otherwise good people have to rationalize away the problems.
    who, the ig or holder?

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by katsung47 View Post
    Bin Laden died ten years ago. They keep him alive because they need a false flag enemy to maintain the "war on terror". Now US economy can't support them for such an expensive war. To finish it, they need fulfil their last step - war on Iran. So they push out such a soap drama, it is a "provocative action", sychronized with "Quran burning" in Florida and "veil ban" law passed in French, to justify a coming "dirty bomb attack" which will lead to war on Iran like what 911 leading to war on Afghanistan and Iraq.

    This is an cheating operation done by the Feds.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    eric holder, speaking last week to the american constitution society convention of like minded lawyers: our civilian court system is "our most effective terror fighting weapon"

    Holder: Civilian courts "our most effective terror fighting weapon"

    this white house can only be described as weird

    sure, mr ag, it was the likes of lance ito that accomplished the ASSASSINATION of ubl

    so what are we doing in afghanistan?

    writing out tickets?

    like our "no hostilities" policy in libya?

    twilight zone, anyone?

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    the addled ag continues (link above):

    Politics has no place -- no place -- in the impartial and effective administration of justice. Decisions about how, where and when to prosecute must be made by prosecutors, not politicians. And this is true for every case, whether it involves brutal terrorists or white collar criminals.
    unfortunately, eric, the president's own congress voted 341 to FORTY EIGHT to prohibit civilian trials

    it went down during LAME DUCK

    LOL!

    A HUNDRED AND SIXTY ONE of nancy's nervous nellies notched with boehner, then in the MINORITY

    in the senate, 59 dems at the time, the ban on transferring terrorists sailed via VOICE VOTE

    Barack Obama's plan to close Gitmo 'in shambles' - Josh Gerstein - POLITICO.com

    america has never encountered a cabinet official as profoundly out of touch with reality as eric holder

    anyway, america is grateful barack the slasher obama FAILED so comprehensively in his futile and foolish efforts to undo the anti terror policies put in place by his predecessors---gitmo, detention, the patriot act---thus allowing this famous assassination, about the only positive accomplishment this poor, perplexed president has produced

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