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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    On another note.....

    Have you noticed that since this happened, it's like Japan's nuclear crisis never happened?

    In three months, no one will care about bin Laden either.

    People's attention spans are so short these days.
    I disgaree. Esp in reguards to those that lost loved ones on 9/11 and esp those living in NY. You are wrong here.
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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Obama broke no law!!! End of story. get over this dude
    Such certainty. I hope your right. But, if he assassintated, killed as in an execution, I would beg to differ. The law must apply to all, or there is no law.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The law must apply to all, or there is no law.
    yup, gitmo, detention, rendition, wiretapping and summary execution

    string em up!

    good thinking

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If they represented no one, they would have no followers, no members, no one to act.
    So what country are they a political party of? Come on man tell us.

    Not sure what country you're speaking of, but we saw in Iraq a number of Saudis and Syrians come to the call.
    No, I am not sure who you think they represent. What country, what party. Is there an election we can point to where they have had a hand in participation in? Your fundamental lack of understanding what OBL, and AQ stood for is glaring.

    The largest obsticle to trying KSM, besides the fer mongering, is that Bush violated rule of law.

    Says you.

    it's difficult to back track that stuff. It could be done, but with great difficulty. Had we adhered to rule of law from the begining, we'd all be the better for it.
    How can you face yourself in the mirror living in such an ignoble, unlawful country Joe?

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So what country are they a political party of? Come on man tell us
    .


    Believe it or not, politics is not limited to a single country. A movement can be seen as polticial but not nationalistic.

    No, I am not sure who you think they represent. What country, what party. Is there an election we can point to where they have had a hand in participation in? Your fundamental lack of understanding what OBL, and AQ stood for is glaring.
    No country. Like minded people.



    Says you.
    And rightly so.


    How can you face yourself in the mirror living in such an ignoble, unlawful country Joe?

    j-mac
    I have a healthy self and national esteem. I'm not as easily shaken as some. I can question and make judgements without falling aprt.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I have a healthy self and national esteem
    fascinating

    meanwhile, it's kind of a shame that president barack the slasher continued all those criminal operations initiated by his predecessor, thus making possible this assassination

    oh well, so much for changing america's image abroad

    wiretapping, anyone?

    rendition?

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    .Believe it or not, politics is not limited to a single country. A movement can be seen as polticial but not nationalistic.

    AQ is a terror org that attacked us unprovoked. Now you may wish to support them through covering that up as in redefining them as some quasi political entity. It doesn't mean they are.


    No country. Like minded people.
    Sorry dude, you are spinning here....Our own IRS defines a "political org" as follows:

    Definition of a Qualified State or Local Political Organization


    A qualified state or local political organization is a political organization that meets the following requirements:

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    The organization limits its exempt function to the selection process relating solely to any state or local public office or office in a state or local political organization;

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    The organization is required under a state law to report to a state agency (and the organization does so) the information that otherwise would be required to be reported on Form 8872. The organization will meet this requirement even if the state law does not require reporting of the identical information required on Form 8872, so long as at least the following information is required to be reported under the state law and is reported by the organization:

    o
    The name and address of every person who contributes $500 or more in the aggregate to the organization during the calendar year and the amount of each contribution, and
    o
    The name and address of every person to whom the organization makes expenditures aggregating $800 or more during the calendar year, and the amount of each expenditure.

    However, if the state law requires the reporting of any additional information specified in Internal Revenue Code section 527(j)(3), the organization will meet this requirement only if it reports that additional information to the state agency;

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    The state agency makes the reports filed by the organization publicly available;

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    The organization makes the reports filed with the state agency publicly available in the manner described in Code section 6104(d); and

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    No federal candidate or office holder controls or materially participates in the direction of the organization, solicits contributions to the organization, or directs any of the organization's disbursements.
    Definition of a Qualified State or Local Political Organization
    wiki says this:

    A political party is a political organization that typically seeks to influence government policy, usually by nominating their own candidates and trying to seat them in political office. Parties participate in electoral campaigns, educational outreach or protest actions. Parties often espouse an expressed ideology or vision bolstered by a written platform with specific goals, forming a coalition among disparate interests.

    Political party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Please try if you can and explain how AQ fits this criteria in your eyes.

    And rightly so.
    You'll excuse me if I disagree.

    I have a healthy self and national esteem.
    I don't think you do Joe.

    You believe this country ignoble, and engaged in illegal activity, to the extent that rather than exercise our sovereignty, we should beg UN approval for ever increasing functions that are solely in our own interests.


    I'm not as easily shaken as some. I can question and make judgements without falling aprt.
    You certainly do have a flair for exaggeration.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Sounds like his politics are guiding his opinion, more than anything else. The, "un-American", part kind gave it away.

    I think politics are guiding the opinions of those that so desperately want Bush to have some part of this glory! Unfortunately for them, even McCain has come out against those that want to make water boarding seem like a piece of cake and clarified the nonsense that it had anything to do with finding Bin Laden.



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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Lol...you make it sound like we cut heads off our captives. A little stress and duress here and there...is what we use

    Which all just happens to go against the Constitution, ratified treaties against it (Supreme Law of the Land), the Geneva Convention.......

    And this from those who claim to love the Constitution and want to abide by it! Ha!



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    Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    View the link before responding.

    Like the video points out that he is a CIA official? I didn't get that from the video. That he is Bush's former speech writer makes him an expert on CIA interrogations? Ha!

    It appears that either McCain or Theissen is lying, and they are both Republicans!

    Former prisoner of war John McCain weighed in today on the assertions that torture played a role in tracking down Osama bin Laden.

    “That’s false,” wrote the senior U.S. Senator from Arizona, in an editorial published in the Washington Post today.

    McCain continued:

    The trail to bin Laden did not begin with a disclosure from Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who was waterboarded 183 times. The first mention of Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti — the nickname of the al-Qaeda courier who ultimately led us to bin Laden — as well as a description of him as an important member of al-Qaeda, came from a detainee held in another country, who we believe was not tortured. None of the three detainees who were waterboarded provided Abu Ahmed’s real name, his whereabouts or an accurate description of his role in al-Qaeda.

    Update – McCain: Torture Didn’t Help Locate Bin Laden - Osha Gray Davidson - Edison 2.0 - Forbes



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